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    Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Tertiary Education - A-Levels, Diplomas, Degrees
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    • lee_ylL Offline
      lee_yl
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      I am amused to have given the (mis)impression that I want my daughter to go out to earn a lot of money. Perish the thought, Business Degree was DD1’s 1st choice, subsequently she changed her mind to Economics.


      DH and I aren’t from the financial sector so we are not familiar. Instead, DD1 was the one who kept updating us like what her seniors advised her to do. She yearns to go overseas for her intership that is why she refused to list down NTU Biz as a back-up because the 3yr course does not include the opportunity to go for overseas internships. She clearly knows what she is looking out for.

      Just to share, DD1’s JC prom night was on 4th Dec 2023, the very next day, on 5th Dec morning, she started working already. She is those motivated to earn her own keep. She started working part-time job when she was just 14yo and I had arguments with her over this.

      I guess a near equivalent would be kids who are self-driven to get into Law or Medicine. Not every child who wants to do well to get into these coveted courses is being forced by their parents. These kids are very busy beefing up their CVs, doing internships but they themselves want to and are sufficiently motivated to do so.

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        I am amused to have given the (mis)impression that I want my daughter to go out to earn a lot of money. Perish the thought, Business Degree was DD1’s 1st choice, subsequently she changed her mind to Economics.

        DH and I aren’t from the financial sector so we are not familiar. Instead, DD1 was the one who kept updating us like what her seniors advised her to do. She yearns to go overseas for her intership that is why she refused to list down NTU Biz as a back-up because the 3yr course does not include the opportunity to go for overseas internships. She clearly knows what she is looking out for.

        Just to share, DD1’s JC prom night was on 4th Dec 2023, the very next day, on 5th Dec morning, she started working already. She is those motivated to earn her own keep. She started working part-time job when she was just 14yo and I had arguments with her over this.

        I guess a near equivalent would be kids who are self-driven to get into Law or Medicine. Not every child who wants to do well to get into these coveted courses is being forced by their parents. These kids are very busy beefing up their CVs, doing internships but they themselves want to and are sufficiently motivated to do so.
        Sounds like totally opp of mine. my posts were referring to my child actually. She is the type to likely to daydream through her 7 months after A levels if we never impose for her to do something. But too early to jump into any conclusion for now I hope.
        Your DD1 sounds like street smart type, to have start work so young. What are the part time or temp jobs suitable for girls of 16 yo or 18 yo? I hope mine will do some work at 16, then 18. Not necessary internship but just for work experience that worklife is not easy.

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        • bbbayB Offline
          bbbay
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          Sounds like totally opp of mine. my posts were referring to my child actually. She is the type to likely to daydream through her 7 months after A levels if we never impose for her to do something. But too early to jump into any conclusion for now I hope.
          Your DD1 sounds like street smart type, to have start work so young. What are the part time or temp jobs suitable for girls of 16 yo or 18 yo? I hope mine will do some work at 16, then 18. Not necessary internship but just for work experience that worklife is not easy.
          After O level my girl worked temp in Popular book store. She was given the choice of stacking books or cashier. She chose the latter. Good experience for her. 10 hours shifts. The branch was near our home she come home for quick meal sometimes. At end of every shift she has to reconcile collected money against entries. Her first purchase with her first salary was an Apple Watch. She now has the concept of how many hours of work takes to pay for $x item. And work during PH pays more.

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          • sharonkhooS Offline
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            Someone I know, heard he began with technical numerical work analysing and producing products. Now moved upwards to deal with clients while getting staff to do the necessary number crunching work. His boss which is the regional account manager has the clients base covering those few staff dealing with different groups of clients. So it is a pyramid of some sort. If so, one in finance would ultimately not escape sales, and dealing with clients. May not be so suitable for ladies esp those academics types who are not so street smart, but more book smart?
            Perhaps some would prefer to stay in the same job rather than move up the ladder and change the nature of his job? I think there should be room for all types (though they need to accept that the pay will differ depending on the choices made). So in your example, perhaps the not street smart ones will have to travel a different path, or just gain seniority in a specialised area.

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            • MrsKiasuM Offline
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              My dds are behind most of time. They are those who always at awe at friends who know this and that…sometimes at that very moment they may say I would like to learn this or that…then we look around. We cannot see what courses/jobs they will be in next time. I feel I m quite at ease actually…no high expectations on academic. Not very sure for them tho…but so long as they try and try I guess that’s ok ba so long as they don’t give up.

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              • MrsKiasuM Offline
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                I find people can change along the way. One can be an introvert then become extrovert in the future due to environmental influence etc.

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                • lee_ylL Offline
                  lee_yl
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                  00skyblue00\" post_id=\"2134809\" time=\"1717735159\" user_id=\"143605:

                  Sounds like totally opp of mine. my posts were referring to my child actually. She is the type to likely to daydream through her 7 months after A levels if we never impose for her to do something. But too early to jump into any conclusion for now I hope.
                  Your DD1 sounds like street smart type, to have start work so young. What are the part time or temp jobs suitable for girls of 16 yo or 18 yo? I hope mine will do some work at 16, then 18. Not necessary internship but just for work experience that worklife is not easy.
                  At 14yo, she started working part-time with McDonald’s in Sentosa as the pay is higher there as an incentive for those willing to travel all the way there. She had to quit after I found out.

                  At 16yo, she worked for Eu Yan Sang during the school holidays. Currently, she is working for LTA while awaiting university entry 😄

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                  • lee_ylL Offline
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                    Hi Leeyl, may i know why econs and not business? Does it have a wider choice of career prospects compared to biz? So it’s under Arts & Social Science dept right.
                    Hi Hi, last year, my DD1’s 1st choice was to do Biz but realized she is more of an introvert and doesn’t enjoy meeting different people everyday. Therefore, we decided on Econs. She can just do her analysis job if she really wants to. DD1 prefers Econs also because Biz is a general degree. I have a younger JC2 daughter who is currently looking at Biz. How old is your kid?

                    Accountacy also ok/suitable but she ruled it out because the remuneration does not commensurate with the long hours spent at work. Will AI replace accounting jobs? We think it’s just a matter of time because it’s already starting to happen in US.

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                    • Imp75I Offline
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                      Studying accountancy doesn’t mean one needs to enter the profession and therefore low pay. Nowadays staff doing the work in the profession can be poly grads too unlike last time. My girl is in Acc but I don’t think she’s interested in the profession as I told her pay is low and hours are long. She’s better off doing the investment side in banks and accountancy degree equips you with understanding how the financials of the companies are built up rather than just crunching or doing projections only based on financial analytics.

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                      • doodbugD Offline
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                        I’m not as pessimistic about the accountancy profession. Every company, big or small, needs to have a set of audited accounts.


                        Compared to the past, fewer top students are reading Accountancy (my time you need like AAA or AAB to get into NTU Accountancy). Even fewer will persevere to become Chartered Accountants.

                        There is a huge gini coefficient (pardon my economist speak), i.e. a huge variance in the accountancy world. The top end of the Accountancy profession is very well paid. It is an up or out policy at the big accountancy firms. There are a significant number of partnership positions - it’s whether you are able to bring in the business for the firm.

                        An accountancy degree is not just about audit and assurance. It is a good springboard to other careers in the financial sector. You can always pursue a CFA or other qualifications later on.

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