New L1R4 system for JC entry

[doodbug]

@zac-s-mum It’s a reduction in stress in that those who wish to take fewer subjects, can do so, and fewer subjects are counted. This is very valuable especially for those who have a very committed side hustle or pursuing an activity like sports or other pursuits at a level that requires a lot of commitment.

Looking at the spreadsheet, I would say there seems to be many options. I am surprised there are a good number of JCs who do not have prerequisites for H2 Math, and only require combined science for H2 Science. It’s more open than I expect. Economics, Geog, History, China Studies in English generally do not have prerequisites, me thinks. All O level kids would have taken at least one combined science?

[sharonkhoo]

@zac-s-mum said in New L1R4 system for JC entry:

While it is possible, the choices of JCs available to you once u take “fewer” total subjects, is quite restricted.

This is probably why the “better”students will still strive to take more subjects.

What lessening of stress is there, really?

I think we have to accept that some students can take more subjects and still do well in all of them, while others may not be able to spread themselves to widely. As long as fewer subjects are counted, those who take fewer are not disadvantaged in applying to JC, which I think is a good thing. In my day, when 5 ‘O’ level subjects were counted for JC entry, there were some who took 8 or more
‘O’ level subjects and some scored good grades in all, while others chose to take 6 or 7 subjects, and some also scored good grades in all. It just means that some can concentrate more on a few, while others have more to choose from when applying for JC. Stress is mainly caused by aiming higher than the student can achieve - recognising and accepting each person’s ability will reduce stress.

[doodbug]

I can accept that to have more options in JC, one will need to read more subjects at O levels. There will always be students who opt for this path because they want to learn about different subjects before making a decision.

The inclusive thing about this new policy is that even if you do not opt for many subjects at O levels, you may do so without jeopardising entry to JC. The pathway remains open to the student. There will inevitably be some subject choice consequences of reading a more narrow set of subjects at O levels.

I personally feel that taking more subjects at the O level stage does help to build one’s capacity for learning. And now students can afford to take subjects without worrying they need to be included in the L1R4. It remains to be seen how generous and open schools will be to offering kids a wide platter and number of subjects read though.

[sharonkhoo]

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[sharonkhoo]

@doodbug said in New L1R4 system for JC entry:

I personally feel that taking more subjects at the O level stage does help to build one’s capacity for learning. And now students can afford to take subjects without worrying they need to be included in the L1R4. It remains to be seen how generous and open schools will be to offering kids a wide platter and number of subjects read though.

Yes, I hope that with the way the education system has developed in the 45 yrs since I was in sec school, they will be able to give more flexibility and choice to students. In my school, at the end of sec 2, students were streamed into 6 classes based on their Sec 2 results. 2 classes did 8 subjects, 2 classes did 7, and 2 classes did 6. For the first 4 classes, the whole class would take the same set of subjects; if you wanted to change subjects, you had to change class, and you could only move “down”, not “up”. There was a bit more flexibility in subject choice in the 5th and 6th classes, I think. I hope that kind of rigidity remains well in the past.

[Imp75]

If a student only requires L1R4 to qualify for JC, how realistic is the student able to cope in JC science stream coming from potentially a E Math or combined science class? Is MOE dumbing down the A level syllabus? Or is it used to complement the new 3H2 only requirement (H1 syllabus is like a progression from E maths or combined sci in terms of difficulty) so overall reduce stress so students have more time to pursue sports, arts, sustainability or topics of interest?

[bbbay]

Currently, if a student takes seven subjects under the L1 R5, he or she would have one backup subject. Apparently, MOE doesn’t see that one backup subject is for student to “explore”. Else we wouldn’t have the new L1R4. The one subject that is taken out to form the new L1R4 is for students to explore, according to MOE. So I don’t think it makes sense after the new L1R4 is introduced, Schools will proceed to reduce total subjects for students. Else it will nullified the 1 subject created for exploration from the new L1R4?

[Imp75]

@bbbay
How should current sec 2 parents strategise the sec 3 offerings to be student ready for JC subject combi? To go science in jc, hv to take EL CL A Maths E Maths, pure Chem, one humanities, pure bio or physics or combined sci. No way can anyone take less than 7 subjects to go JC science comfortably right? And cannot just take A maths without E maths right? How is it more stress-free than currently?

[Avenue3]

Hi,

I have a question on the bonus points.

Can a student get 3 bonus point from CCA and JC affiliation and get additional 2 bonus points from language elective programme ?

[SG_KP1]

Yes. See here.

https://www.moe.gov.sg/news/press-releases/20250306-infosheet-1-revised-jc-admission-criteria