New L1R4 system for JC entry
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@Imp75 said in New L1R4 system for JC entry:
@floppy
Seems like JC either needs to dumb down the current syllabus or qualifying criteria or do away with science or arts stream to cater to the masses with this new L1R4 requirements. Perhaps also bring back commerce stream and make MI a regular JC again with 2-year track?Our education system is designed like building blocks. Hence, removing / moving one block will inevitably affect the rest of the chain. 牵一发而动全身, I won’t be surprised if this isn’t the end of the changes before the next next GE
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@doodbug said in New L1R4 system for JC entry:
One of my kids took Phy, Maths Econs, History. So yes it is still classed as a Science stream offering - once you take a H2 Science, you are classed as a Science student in JC.
This is probably the only “science” combo in JC that a O Level student with background in 1 science and 1 math can take. Unfortunately, not many alternatives if die die want to go JC.
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@floppy said in New L1R4 system for JC entry:
@doodbug said in New L1R4 system for JC entry:
One of my kids took Phy, Maths Econs, History. So yes it is still classed as a Science stream offering - once you take a H2 Science, you are classed as a Science student in JC.
This is probably the only “science” combo in JC that a O Level student with background in 1 science and 1 math can take. Unfortunately, not many alternatives if die die want to go JC.
Even then I wouldn’t recommend this combo for anyone with 1 science and 1 math at O levels. My kid did three sciences + 2 maths in upper sec - even then I don’t think the kid found A levels easy lol ::)
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@doodbug
So syllabus need to dumb down. Why should A level students study so much if they want to do law or bizad. Defer the learning at specialised uni level. -
@Imp75 said in New L1R4 system for JC entry:
@doodbug
So syllabus need to dumb down. Why should A level students study so much if they want to do law or bizad. Defer the learning at specialised uni level.MOE will probably say A level stress is already alleviated moving from 90RP to 70RP, which in a way, I cannot disagree.
My kids are all under the 90RP system so I am not able to compare if things are easier or lighter or less stressful under the 70RP system.
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I personally think the stress comes from wrong fit. Many Science students end up taking it not because they looooove Science, but because they want to keep more options open.
It’s better to think more carefully, earlier, about what u want to do in the future, do your own ECG research & planning, be sure what u want or don’t want. Decisions become easier once you are clear.
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@zac-s-mum
Honestly who knows what they want to do at sec 2 when they select their specialisation to pivot to higher education? Even many A level grads today dunno what degree they want to pursue (my kids included) and esp so if u hv so many options to choose from.
And matter of fact, it’s easier to score in sci/maths subjects than humanities due to the subjectivity element involved. -
@doodbug said in New L1R4 system for JC entry:
MOE will probably say A level stress is already alleviated moving from 90RP to 70RP, which in a way, I cannot disagree.
My kids are all under the 90RP system so I am not able to compare if things are easier or lighter or less stressful under the 70RP system.
IMO, the stress isn’t from the A Level content or scoring system itself. It has been said before that the A Level content isn’t “that hard.” Instead, it is that the competition within the A Level is very high, and students know that the results shape what options you have available (unlike secondary school where you just need to hit the promo criteria).
Both of my kids will be under RP 70, so like you I cannot compare (I can tell you that t-score or AL makes no difference though).
Again, RP 70 is fine, I don’t think anyone believes we should allocate all university spots strictly on A level scores.
Still, I think this is a bit like reducing the number of exams. Doing so may make for a better schooling experience with other activities and whatnot. But you still have an EOY where you get a percentage. It still is as stressful or stress-free as any one person makes it out to be.
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Just as another example, we can look at Western education systems or the Int’l school system here in Singapore. Generally speaking, the curriculum may not be as intense and there usually isn’t as much focus on one’s ranking/standing to determine where you go. Also, there is often more encouragement for exploration and finding one’s interests. Perhaps these are desirable.
However, if you look at the top quarter to top third of those cohorts (perhaps the entire cohort in some schools), most of those kids and parents face the same dilemma and anxiety; all of them are trying to go to the same universities and not all of them can get accepted. And if you are really talking about the most selective stuff, many of those kids will have courseloads/work that is at or above what’s done here.
On the other hand, if you just don’t care or care but are willing to make the most out of whatever is available, you’ll be fine (some stress but hardly unbearable). Regardless, the reasons why (many) people eschew the latter have little to do with the number of exams, scoring system, or curriculum.
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@Imp75 said in New L1R4 system for JC entry:
@zac-s-mum
Honestly who knows what they want to do at sec 2 when they select their specialisation to pivot to higher education? Even many A level grads today dunno what degree they want to pursue (my kids included) and esp so if u hv so many options to choose from.
And matter of fact, it’s easier to score in sci/maths subjects than humanities due to the subjectivity element involved.Tell me about it. I cringed so hard (probably had to bite my tongue too) when my kids decided to pick Arts subjects in JC. Because I also hold the view it is generally easier and there is more certainty to scoring well in sci/math subjects (even if one is keen and/or good in Arts subjects). Count me old-fashioned. Of course if the child hates Science and Maths and can’t do well in it, and picks Arts subjects, that is understandable. But for some students, they are able to cope with Math and Science or Arts subjects, and being the old-fashioned me, would always prefer kids to pick Math/Sci due to the scoring and also preserving options for university.
The difference is even more stark for the IB HLs - the Math/Sci subjects have a far higher percentage of 7s than the Arts subjects.
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