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    Tutor MathsGuru: Ask me for your burning Maths questions!

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    • H Offline
      Herbie
      last edited by

      Hi Dharma,


      Sorry, i need to seek clarification.

      Based on the question, if we fixed the time ratio as fixed

      Shld the solution be written in the following way:

      Time ratio => Sam : Ruth = 5 : 3
      Speed ratio => Sam : Ruth = 5 : 3


      Does Speed ratio = Distance ratio?

      Hence Distance ratio => Sam : Ruth = 3 : 5

      Please advise.

      Many thanks!

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        Dharma
        last edited by

        Herbie:
        Hi Dharma,


        Sorry, i need to seek clarification.

        Based on the question, if we fixed the time ratio as fixed

        Shld the solution be written in the following way:

        Time ratio => Sam : Ruth = 5 : 3
        Speed ratio => Sam : Ruth = 5 : 3


        Does Speed ratio = Distance ratio?

        Hence Distance ratio => Sam : Ruth = 3 : 5

        Please advise.

        Many thanks!
        Hi Herbie,

        Firstly, we need to know the speed ratio of Sam and Ruth. We know that the time taken by Sam and Ruth is 5hrs and 3 hrs respectively from one town to the other.

        Here the distance between the 2 towns is fixed.
        Speed ratio => Sam : Ruth = 3 : 5 (Inverse of time ratio)

        Speed is fixed throughout. So, now we know that Sam and Ruth will move towards each other until they reach the meeting point.

        When they meet, time is constant…. Speed ratio is proportional to distance ratio
        Distance ratio => Sam : Ruth = 3 : 5

        (5u – 3u)/2 = 30km [Sorry … was careless earlier]
        1u = 30km

        Distance between the 2 towns = 8u = 240km

        Speed of Sam = 240km/5hrs = 48km/hr

        # You ratios in bold is incorrect. Time and speed is ALWAYS inversely proportional to each other.
        Speed ratio = Distance ratio provided time is constant.

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          Herbie
          last edited by

          Hi Dharma,


          I dun understand why (5u – 3u)/2 I tot is 5u-3u = 2u hence 2u=30km

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            Dharma
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            Herbie:
            Hi Dharma,


            I dun understand why (5u – 3u)/2 I tot is 5u-3u = 2u hence 2u=30km
            Hi Herbie,

            When they met, Sam travelled 3u while Ruth travelled 5u. Distance between the 2 towns is 8u.
            So, midpoint is 4u from either town. So, difference in distance from the meeting point to midpoint is (4u – 3u) = 1u or (5u – 3u)/2 = 1u

            (5u – 3u) = 2u = 30 is incorrect because 2u is the difference in distance travelled by Sam and Ruth and it is not 30km.

            30km is half of the difference in distance travelled by Sam and Ruth (it is the distance from meeting point and midpoint)

            Sam travelled 1u less than distance from Town A to mid-point and Ruth travelled 1u more than the distance from Town B to midpoint.

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              Dharma
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              tiger262:
              Can anyone post a solution for this speed question?


              Kumar and Clara started jogging along a circular track.
              Kumar started at Point M while Clara started at Point N where the line MN formed the diameter of the circle.
              Kumar and Clara jogged toward each other along the circular track from their respective starting point and first met at Point P which was 80 m from Point M.
              After they met for the first time, they continued jogging along the track and finally met again for the second time at Point Q which was 60 m from Point N. Find the distance of the circular track.

              Thank you so much.
              When Kumar met Clara for the 1st time at P ; he had jogged for 80m from M.
              When Kumar met Clara for the 2nd time at Q; he would have jogged another 160m (2 x 80m) from P.

              So, distance from P ->N -> Q = 160m
              Distance PN = 160m – 60m = 100m
              Circumference of the jogging track = 2 x (80m + 100m) = 360m

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                Almighty
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                Dharma:
                Almighty:

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                Thanks Dharma.There must be a printing mistake in the book...

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                  Almighty
                  last edited by

                  Dharma:
                  Herbie:



                  Hi Herbie,

                  The question is telling us when Sam and Ruth meet, they are 30km away from the mid-point of Town A and Town B

                  You have considered distance as fixed (From Town and Town B) and you found the time and speed ratios but you cannot mix speed/time with distance in an addition/subtraction equation.

                  The 30km given is DISTANCE ….you cannot subtract time /speed between Sam and Ruth and equate it to distance.

                  You need to understand what the qn is asking us and apply the appropriate ratio to solve the question.

                  The question is about meeting of 2 persons. For meeting questions; we know time taken is the same IF both departed at the same time. (Time is constant)

                  We know the time ratio …. But we need to find the distance ratio. REASON : Qn gives us the difference in distance travelled by Sam and Ruth. (i.e. 30km)

                  Even my teacher never explains like you Dharma. Thankyou very much Dharma. Thankyou Herbie for posting such questions.

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                    Dharma
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                    Herbie:

                    I have another speed qn.

                    Rose and Stella travelled from Town A to Town B along the same road but at different speeds.
                    Rose started her journey 45 min earlier than Stella but Stella reached Town B 20 minutes earlier.

                    When Stella reached Town B, Rose had travelled 7/8 of the journey and was 25 km away from Town B.
                    If Rose and Stella travelled at a constant speed.

                    a. What is the distance btw TOwn A and B? is the ans 175km?
                    b. What speed was Rose travelling at?
                    c. How long did Stella take to travel from Town A to Town B.


                    Tx
                    a)\t1/8 of the journey => 25km
                    8/8 of the journey => 25km x 8 = 200km (Distance between Town A and B)

                    b)\tRose will cover the last 25km of her journey in 20 mins
                    20 mins => 25km
                    60 mins => 75km
                    Rose’s speed = 75km/h

                    c)\tTime taken by Rose => 20 x 8 = 160 mins
                    Rose started 45 mins earlier and ended 20 mins later. Therefore, Stella took 65 mins lesser than Rose to complete her journey.
                    Time taken by Stella = 160 mins – 65 mins = 95 mins

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                      Herbie
                      last edited by

                      Hi Dharma,


                      I dun understand this para "Speed ratio = Distance ratio provided time is constant."

                      What do u mean by Time is constant?

                      I read the following from a book, and is says
                      If the travelling time of 2 individuals are the same (common time), the ratio of distance covered is directly proportional or the same as the ratio of the individual’s speed

                      eg.
                      Speed ® : Speed (S)
                      2 : 3

                      Time ® : Time (S)
                      2 : 3

                      I dun understand the above mentioned theory, would you to able to explain??

                      Cos I tot Speed ratio is inversely proportional to Time Ratio.



                      Many thanks!

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                        Jolyn
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                        Hi Guru


                        I have a few questions which needs your help:

                        1. Tom is 32kg heavier than Amy. If their total mass is 112kg. How heavy is Amy?

                        2. A ball of string was cut into 7 equal pieces. Each piece was 50cm long How much string would be left if 2 such peices were given away?

                        3.A watering can contained 890 ml of water. Angie used 230ml of it to water her carnation plants and 380ml of it to water her rose plants. How much water was left in her watering can?

                        4. Don bought 12 pineapples and 6 watermelons. How much heavier than the watermelons are the pineapples?

                        5. Rope A is 17m long. Rope B is thrice as long as Rope A. Rope C is 15m shorter than Rope B. What is the length of Rope C?

                        Thks

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