Are All Primary Schools The Same?
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citygirl:
Ha ha. Likewise for me, if I managed to get 80 for Chinese (to be honest, I magically scored 75 in a mid-yr exam in Sec 2 by throwing dice. Needless to say, I tried again in the final yearexam but was unsuccessful. Didn't even pass).janet_lee88:
he will get scolding if his test marks are in 80 range.
Poor boy. I feel for him. If I could get 80 for Chinese or Maths in my time, my parents would have thrown a banquet in my honour! :celebrate:
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tamarind:
that's right.....agree with the saying,
The fact is that whether it is brand name school or neighbourhood school, if parents want kids to do well, either send to enrichment classes or teach at home. In this way they are \"the same\".
the parents play a more major role than the school itself....... -
I think these days, there are many good neigbourhood schools and my definition of good schools are those that have modern facilities and enterprising principal/teachers who can run interesting programs in the school. Usually, these schools will have balloting at least at phase 2C. I am more concerned about those schools which still have plenty of vacancies in Phase 3…
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DD’s classmate’s dad once asked his friend who is a senior MOE official, whether MOE post good teachers to good schools. His friend told him that MOE post teachers according to where they live. It only seems like the good schools have good teachers because these teachers have an easier time.
The parents of students in good schools are usually kancheong/kiasu who send their children for enrichment/tuition, and they make sure their children complete their homework on time. On the other hand, teachers in "not so good" schools have their hands full with disciplinary issues. -
Augmum:
Very true! My dd's school super slack. Totally ruin my impression of 'top' schools
that's right.....agree with the saying,tamarind:
The fact is that whether it is brand name school or neighbourhood school, if parents want kids to do well, either send to enrichment classes or teach at home. In this way they are \"the same\".
the parents play a more major role than the school itself.......
Parents must 自己来 train kids for maths olympiad, ICAS,...
If rely on slow snail principal to drive :slapshead: -
1) If MOE says that all schools are the same (though they know it is not), then it should try to make all schools the same.
2) Even if all schools are the same, all children are different
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citygirl:
They BAND them now, not rank them. Not much difference.
Hmm... I thought MOE deliberately does not rank primary schools?
And I think the intention of giving out these awards is to give a little recognition to the schools and to hopefully show parents that there are other good schools so we don't all have to rush for places in schools like CHS and NYPS.
Honestly, I feel that it is right for MOE to give out these awards. It is the parents who create the madness. Guess things don't always work out as it's intended! :slapshead:
You should hear teachers' conversations when we attend courses, then you'll understand what I mean about the 'banding' and 'awards'.
Honestly, 50% of my time in school is 'award chasing'. All the admin & paperwork involved.
Leaving little time for real lesson prep, unless we eat into personal time.
If all schools are the same, there is no need for awards because by giving one school an award and not another school, then there will be 'difference' in the schools.
Anyway, the main thing right in front of us is that all schools ARE different. They each have their niche areas and cultures. No matter how we try, they'll never be the same. Some parents cos schools based on their culture and niche CCAs too, not just academics
BTW, I always feel that a good school can help stretch a child's abilities but PARENTS are the most important (live example = my hubs -_\"- NYPS student but poor results due to no monitoring from home). -
Not all top schools have teachers who really teach. Very simple, teachers in branded schools presume (usually the case) that parents will send their little ones to enrichment centres, so their job is relaxed.
Non-popular schools have teachers who have to deal with weak students, give remedial classes and deal with disciplinary issues their students give. Different set of problems compared to those in popular schools. However, each teacher is given only 1 stack of plain paper. So which teacher is willing to set worksheets to help weaker students at their own expense ? -
I think most teachers (if not all) have their hands full - they have to deal with weak and bright students, handle class displinary, satisfy parents, run cca/projects etc… regardless of which school they teach in.
Having said that, other jobs in private and public sectors - be it nurses, policemen, accountants, engineers, sales persons etc… are equally stressful and have to work long hours too. It is just that teachers are sort of "public" figures that deal with our children, that’s why they are always in the limelight. -
ultimately it is the passion and attitude that make a difference.
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