Criteria for a Good Student Care Service (BASC)
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jedamum:
Heyya jedamum,Buds,
does BASC generally offer flexi-care programme? ie if i/caregiver is sick and need someone to fetch and supervise the kid for say 1-2 days only or on adhoc basis (eg 2-3 days a week as parent working parttime).
Generally no. Cause the fees are already quite reasonable for the normal
20 days of before after school care. But if you do require a fixed flexi-day
kind of routine, (if you know you have fixed part-time hours) you may
raise it up with the centre of your choice. There may be some who are
willing to make exceptions, subject to case-by-case basis and also
availability. This, only the operator can decide lah not the main teaching
staff. If you're talking ad-hoc, your child should preferably already have
had been in their environment before so the staff knows which student
is your child to be fetched at the school gate... the primary school usually
already have the list of children going for the before after school care
programme and children are lined up according to the centres they are
attending. Hence, ad-hoc is again case by case basis. As for childcare
centres, i do know of centres who can provide ad-hoc for like S$50 per
day, all meals and shower included on top of the normal care. The child
will also join in the lessons with other children of the class. It helps if the
child put up to centres for ad-hoc are the quick-adaptable type and does
not mind being cared for by a new face for the day. -
buds:
Oh man! then have to write in for special request - dont mind paying a bit more for per day costs. was wondering if they offer such services cos sometimes the caregiver is tied up with a younger kid at home who is sick. or parent didnt want the kid to be at home cos the younger one is sick (kindof try to limit the contact to minimise the spread).
Generally no. -
jedamum:
Ya, jedamum. Usually parents with urgencies will not mind paying a lil
Oh man! then have to write in for special request - dont mind paying a bit more for per day costs. was wondering if they offer such services cos sometimes the caregiver is tied up with a younger kid at home who is sick. or parent didnt want the kid to be at home cos the younger one is sick (kindof try to limit the contact to minimise the spread).buds:
Generally no.
more for urgent cases of really needing the care. I have had personal
experience of such myself at a childcare set up. The mom sent in child
cos she needed to be at the hospital to attend to a terminally ill parent
and she was advised it could be anytime (to passing on) already and
should be prepared for the worst. She just was not in the frame of mind
to care for her child and run errands at the hospital, which we understand.
She thanked us in advance many times and apologised if it was a last
minute drop-off for a child we have totally not worked with prior to the
request. We assured her it was ok and that we will care for the child the
best we can and that we will only call her if there was really anything of
emergency status. She said also she knows her child will cry for awhile
and the child will take time to cool down, and with that helpful information
i was tasked to do the job. Hehehee... I'm known to be the immune to
noise... (immune to cries, screams, shouts). All the years being shouted
in my ear by crying children, has made me develop this occupational
hazard... kekekekeh.. -
jedamum:
jedamum, you want me to ask where my DD goes to about this? Then your DS1 will at least know 1 person there.
Oh man! then have to write in for special request - dont mind paying a bit more for per day costs. was wondering if they offer such services cos sometimes the caregiver is tied up with a younger kid at home who is sick. or parent didnt want the kid to be at home cos the younger one is sick (kindof try to limit the contact to minimise the spread).buds:
Generally no. -
schellen:
ya...wait til the '8 character has 1 stroke' first (for my application; i mean)
jedamum, you want me to ask where my DD goes to about this? Then your DS1 will at least know 1 person there.then perhaps i'll find out more from that centre.
i think he won't mind the new environment if M is around -
jedamum:
Okaaaay, I'll call tomorrow to ask anyway. Won't hurt to know. There's another P1 boy there but from different class. All the BASC kids there come from LPS. An the teacher in-charge of them is liked by all of them.
ya...wait til the '8 character has 1 stroke' first (for my application; i mean)schellen:
jedamum, you want me to ask where my DD goes to about this? Then your DS1 will at least know 1 person there.then perhaps i'll find out more from that centre.
i think he won't mind the new environment if M is around -
bolster:
I take it that you are working at BASC and you are fustrated and unhappy with your work to post this entry. If thats your take on parents sending their children to the centre, I pray that the BASC that my boy will be attending is the NOT one you are working in.Dear parents,
Please take note if you put yr kids in BASC:
1. If yr kid is stupid or slow, please engage tutor to help yr kid in schoolwork. Child care centre do not provide tutor service for BASC.
2. If yr kid declare no homework to the teacher in charge, please blame your kid, do not push all the blame to the teachers or centre.
3. If you are not happy with the centre, just quit and leave.
4. If you do not believe what the teacher complain about your kid, please bring your kid to other centres. It imply no trust on the teacher.
If you trust the school, please shut up and pay the school fee. DO NOT BLAME everything to the school.
The school accept feedback but pushing the blame to the teacher due to your kid laziness and stupidness is unacceptable. -
im a parent and my kid is in basc at one of the centre in the north.
So basically i wrote this to see how the reaction of the parent.
I distorted the letter the centre.
I wanted to check with you parents, which school in the north provide free tuition for the BASC. Was told to pay a premium for this service. -
buds:
Heyya san76,san76:
[quote=\"bolster\"]Dear parents,
Please take note if you put yr kids in BASC:
1. If yr kid is stupid or slow, please engage tutor to help yr kid in schoolwork. Child care centre do not provide tutor service for BASC.
2. If yr kid declare no homework to the teacher in charge, please blame your kid, do not push all the blame to the teachers or centre.
3. If you are not happy with the centre, just quit and leave.
4. If you do not believe what the teacher complain about your kid, please bring your kid to other centres. It imply no trust on the teacher.
If you trust the school, please shut up and pay the school fee. DO NOT BLAME everything to the school.
The school accept feedback but pushing the blame to the teacher due to your kid laziness and stupidness is unacceptable.
Hi, Bolster,
What is BASC? Really I dont know the meaning. :roll:
BASC stands for Before After School Care.
These kinda centres provide care service
for mostly primary school students without
a reliable caregiver at home. The students
can come in before they start PM session,
when their parents drop them off at the
centres in the morning (on the way to work).
Or the children will be fetched by the BASC
teachers ( or walk to BASC if its very near
the school - for older children ) after AM
session to the centres from the primary
school upon dismissal.
BASC not only provides the care... or a place
where your child is looked after in the absence
of the parent, such centres also coach/assist
with child's schoolwork and on top of that (some
centres) may also offer tuition at reasonable rates.
A few centres offer optional enrichment pgrms as
well like IT, Creative Maths, Reading Programme,
Speech and Drama (etc) to parents as well.
Centres near our local pools and stadium facilities
sometimes offer that children pick up a sport like
badminton, swimming, (etc) which is again optional
and such extra curricular activities are allowed to be
done like once a week after completion of the tuition
hours + homework, to promote exercise other than
just school work - at a small fee with a qualified coach.
A good BASC will give parents the ease that the
child not only has lunch and tea break provided,
the school work also covered. Whatever rest provided
is really extra. Parents have other pairs of eyes helping
them watch over their kids in the absence of the care of
full-time working parent (especially when there is a neccesity
for the parents to stay employed). Parents can set their mind
at ease that they can spend better quality time with their child
at home, since the major care and school work has been
assisted by the BASC.
If parents have say 2 children, 1 in pre-school and 1 primary
school... there are also childcare centres that offer BASC as
well. They have separate classrooms for the BASC students
who will be cared for by BASC teachers ie. qualified staff to
teach/manage primary level subjects (ala tutors) and the didi
or mei-mei will be with the childcare teachers in the main class
rooms of the childcare centres.
Different centres provide different care services.
And different centres go by different rules or
protocols and fees. Good to check with each
prior to registration. What is shared here is a
general comment of the BASC service and not
representing any centre in particular, k.
Hope the info helps.[/quote]I have changed 3 centres for the BASC. All 3 centre in the north engage lousy or stupid teacher. Worst, the stupid MCYS state teacher with O level is good enough to take care of the student. End up it is the student coaching the teacher.
Now i wonder, is all the centre like that? -
bolster:
Heyya bolster,I have changed 3 centres for the BASC. All 3 centre in the north engage lousy or stupid teacher. Worst, the stupid MCYS state teacher with O level is good enough to take care of the student. End up it is the student coaching the teacher.
Now i wonder, is all the centre like that?
Hope you have calmed down after your angry posts recently...
Having swapped to 3 BASC thus far, must have taken a toil on
you and your child. Hence, the harsh and angry tone from your
first few postings here in the forum. As your postings were rather
vague, i have some questions to clarify the situation you're in...
hope you won't mind. Cos you see... if it is a valid issue, it will be
good for other parents to learn from your painful experience and
through your eyes. All parents wish and want the best for their
children and by having shared your thoughts, we hope to improve
our children's learning journeys and be extra mindful with our
choices in future.. BASC operators can also take from your
experience to hopefully improve their services as well... in general.
1.When you mentioned \"stupid and lousy teachers\"... strong dislike
there in that sentence... Why do you say so? What encounters with
you or your child that came to that conclusion? Did you have any
kind of expectations as a parent, on a BASC service? Prior to putting
your child through the 3 centres, did you garner all the information
you required to satisfy your needs and the needs of your child?
2.Mebbe, if students coming from lower Primary 1-2... O level holders
can manage okay in their eyes? Did you personally check with MCYS
on that matter or was that the assurance from the centres?bolster:
No child is born stupid. Slow mebbe the cause of lack or early preparationDear parents,
Please take note if you put yr kids in BASC:
1. If yr kid is stupid or slow, please engage tutor to help yr kid in schoolwork. Child care centre do not provide tutor service for BASC
prior to joining primary school... or a particular child may have undetected
learning difficulties... well, few possible reasons here...
A private tutor tho' spends time coaching children with school work and
also introduces learning strategies to children, will not be able to provide
care for children whose parents are working full-time.. A nanny, a maid,
a babysitter or a maid should be in place, if not a reliable BASC. Or
mebbe, staying with a neighbour or at the grandparents could be an
option (if possible).
Not all child care centres provide before-after-school-care services...
And if they do not have a proper classroom catered for this, they
definitely do not have the proper staff to teach BASC students and
hence in this case, will not have the mentoring or tutoring service
that comes with the usual BASC service in general..bolster:
This sounds like a view from a teacher, cause of the hurt in the comment.2. If yr kid declare no homework to the teacher in charge, please blame your kid, do not push all the blame to the teachers or centre.
This view on its own reflects almost like a voice of a teacher who has
been misunderstood.
Coming from a parent... hmmm..... let's see...
Communication is a 2-way thing. Both sides -
can work this out.. Initiative is also another thing..
It also does not hurt to check student's school diary
just to double check (cause nowadays most information,
including homework will be jotted down in a school diary..)
For a P1 and P2 child, declaring can be a gradual thing as
they have just only experienced life of a primary student..bolster:
Again, this comment sounds like its coming from centre staff and not3. If you are not happy with the centre, just quit and leave.
so much parent, but possible... By all means parents are customers
here and so are their children. To quit will be the easy option out and
solve the problem immediately while parent still continue to scour for
another centre. If coming from a staff, the teacher can always call for
a supervisor/senior staff to come in and mediate a negative situation.
Though, it can be valid that some parents can be a pain... there are
always two sides to a story... two sides of a coin. Centres these days
also include clauses that they hold the authority to ask a child to be
withdrawn due to a number of reasons. If the centre cannot handle,
or refuse to do business with the parent in particular... with this clause
they can do so - provided the reasons given were valid and not due to
petty issues and personal issues.bolster:
Again, this is a communication issue... but trust MUST be earned. Parents4. If you do not believe what the teacher complain about your kid, please bring your kid to other centres. It imply no trust on the teacher.
If you trust the school, please shut up and pay the school fee. DO NOT BLAME everything to the school. .
need to work to pay for these additional services and its only fair that the
centre prove its efficiency and standard care with professionalism to earn
that respect. Its not right to simply ask a customer to shut up and pay...
regardless of the nature of service... be it after sch care, product sales,
health services, etc.
Parents' value teacher's feedback... It can be frustrating if there are
parents who take pride in their children's abilities and behaviour and
take no heed to a teacher's inner cry for help... how the feedback is
delivered is also important here. If you tell a parent, \"Your child is
super slow.. and not on par with the others in the same level...\" as
compared to \"I think your child needs additional assistance with his
school work to keep up with the rest of his peers, can we discuss..\"
Any parent will find it hard to hear shortcomings of their children but
if the feedback can be delivered in a sincere way to help rather than
pushing the blame and labelling the child, it would be for the benefit
of both. The centre being the provider and being paid for to provide,
it would only make sense that the provider engages in a positive
resolution/intervention for the good of the customer, in this case it
would be the parent and the student.
As a customer, yes, we must also be fair... cannot blame school 100%
unless if there was some major injustice done.bolster:
Again, this seems to come more from a teaching personnel rather than5.The school accept feedback but pushing the blame to the teacher due to your kid laziness and stupidness is unacceptable.
a parent... but anyhow... labelling is not encouraged in a learning
instituition or centre and really... even the home. Neither does putting
down a child (degrading) nor threatening a child is able to provide a
kind of healthy practise/norm for positive change in the long run..
The above statement is in irony of each content.
Accepting feedback, means taking it positively... digesting... and
provide solutions if possible. If having difficulty, parents should be
roped in for discussions...
Laziness is not too bad a word to describe non-motivating children..
coming from a parent or teacher... Cause there are children who
behave in that manner due to lack of interest, lack of motivation,
lack of direction or lack of positive environment for learning..
But stupidness... that's a strong label to give a child.
It's like before even half the battle is won, there is
already no hope for the poor child.