Singapore Junior Chemistry Olympiah 2010
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WeiHan:
Anyway you try to look at it. RGS has 19 medals, CGS has 14 medals. I think some people will agree with me that CGS relative performance is better considering their cutoff point is almost 20 points lower than RGS at psle.
Hi WeiHan,
I saw a lot of blatent sweeping statements (not referring to yours) in this thread, that's why I gave my 2cts earlier. I would like to re-iterate that, I feel RGS' results are respectable (though not outstanding) and should not be compared with boys' schools results since the boys will generally perform better than girls in Maths and Science - just look at the statistics of IMO, IChO, IPhO, IOI etc.
I don't think it is fair to bring in the PSLE cut-off points here. Firstly, the PSLE component is made up of 4 subjects and not just Science. Most RGS girls are probably stronger in languages than in Maths & Science (but they are still the strongest among the girls' schools, if you compare achievements in Maths & Science competitions among all the girls' schools here). Secondly, and the most important point, be it CGS and RGS or some other schools, I believe quite a substantial number of medalists come from PRC - many are likely to be scholars who joined the various schools in Sec 3, and hence has nothing to do with PSLE score.
Cheers and warmest regards. -
WeiHan:
Credit should still be given to the RI's boys for spotting the loophole. When all competitors are equally strong, it is always this kind of little \"extra bit\" that determines who is the champion. This is also true in real life.
I won't say that it is a loophole. Among the 3 teams, in terms of technical knowledge, I think RI is the strongest followed by BPGHS (based on their performance in the semi-finals with HCI) and then RGS. Since RGS was with RI in the semi-finals, she was well aware of RI's strategy of buzzing in before the whole question was read out. Unfortunately, they were not confident that they would be able to answer the \"unknown\" questions if they did get the right to answer the questions. BPGHS tried to use the same strategy but could not answer most of the questions. Overall, I think RI is the deserving champion in NSC2010. -
must academic excellence equate to winning the relevant olympiad competition ?
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verykiasu2010:
must academic excellence equate to winning the relevant olympiad competition ?
If I understand your question correctly, i would think that the answer is general \"yes\". Also \"academic excellence\" is quite subjective term. How good is excellence? But generally speaking, if a student can win a medal in the respective Olympiah competition, I'll say that he/she is rather gifted in that subject. -
WeiHan:
of course, yes, agreed with you in generalverykiasu2010:
must academic excellence equate to winning the relevant olympiad competition ?
If I understand your question correctly, i would think that the answer is general \"yes\". Also \"academic excellence\" is quite subjective term. How good is excellence? But generally speaking, if a student can win a medal in the respective Olympiah competition, I'll say that he/she is rather gifted in that subject.
the \"problem\" is not many are given the opportunity to take part in the competition
some are missed out for whatever reasons that they did not make the mark via the selection test on the test date -
verykiasu2010:
of course, yes, agreed with you in generalWeiHan:
[quote=\"verykiasu2010\"]must academic excellence equate to winning the relevant olympiad competition ?
If I understand your question correctly, i would think that the answer is general \"yes\". Also \"academic excellence\" is quite subjective term. How good is excellence? But generally speaking, if a student can win a medal in the respective Olympiah competition, I'll say that he/she is rather gifted in that subject.
the \"problem\" is not many are given the opportunity to take part in the competition
some are missed out for whatever reasons that they did not make the mark via the selection test on the test date[/quote]My feeling is that not many really good students will be missed out. If you can tell me any school that stops enthusiastic students from taking part in the competition, then I'll think that is school is not too good. I don't think the teachers will select students to represent the school just basing on 1-2 test results. There is no limitation to the number of students taking part in these competitions especially for the first round. -
RGS is really bad at Math and Science in general (except a few–2 or 3 exceptional pupils). The basic reason lies on that the school management staff don’t have strong science background and don’t put effort to support the girls in these areas. It’s far behind the NUS High, let alone RI… That’s why more and more science-inclined girls choose to go to NUS High after PSLE.
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reginaisadog, please quote carefully when you submit a reply. In any case, this subject was discussed last year. Don’t know why you’re bringing it up now. RI won because they played their strategy right of buzzing in first, regardless of whether they knew the answer or not. In fact, they didn’t even know what the question was before buzzing in because the compere didn’t have a chance to read the question before they buzzed in. I gather from your writing you’re a student?
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