Travel: China - Shenzhen, Guangdong
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verykiasu2010:
Any idea what is the weather like in Dec for China? With all the floods now, places like zhang jia jie and jiu zhai gou to me is a no no.
that would be a different justificationatrecord:
Thanks... Personally I'm not overly keen on those places too, but DW suggested it based on familiarity, as she was there few weeks back, and said got things/places for kids... guess it's a case of whatever familiar then suggest...
Another reason is that we're likely going with my parents, and they will take the opportunity to go back to our hometown/village which is near guangzhou...
in that sense, SZ/GD might not be a good choice if it's based solely on family vacation reason alone, but given the situation, i'm trying to see whether it'll work out.
may be work it out in such a way that it is a \"drop by\", say on transit from Guangzhou to Zhang Jia Jie, just an example -
December weather in China is very much dependent on where u go
It could be tropical / sub-tropical Hainan to minus 30 C in the north east near the russian border… and anything in between …lol
seriously in Guangdong, normal temp is just like HK in Dec, further north in Guangdong could be around 2C lower/colder -
Think also consider how old are the kids…if too young,definitely not a good place to go.
must tink of the water they can drink…if still gonna milk feed, hard to find trustworthy drinking water.
And yar, someone mentioned abt the cigarette smell…it was terrible. I brought my few mth old baby to GZ/SZ then…and went to eat. After the meal, the whole stroller plus our clothes are all stenched with cigarette smell!
Plus its so crowded that its so hard to push stroller around in shoppg area… -
Hi,
We were there in Dec 2008 on our own with our kids, 11, 8 and 4 yrs old. Our 2nd stop after Macau Venetian, enroute to HK Disneyland.
My kids enjoyed Happy Valley, Splendid China and Window of the world in SZ. The hotel we stayed was 5 mins walk to Window of the world and u can take the monorail to Splendid China. If your focus is on kids fun and not shopping (messy and can easily get lost), SZ is ok with the theme park. -
beehive:
Hi,
We were there in Dec 2008 on our own with our kids, 11, 8 and 4 yrs old. Our 2nd stop after Macau Venetian, enroute to HK Disneyland.
My kids enjoyed Happy Valley, Splendid China and Window of the world in SZ. The hotel we stayed was 5 mins walk to Window of the world and u can take the monorail to Splendid China. If your focus is on kids fun and not shopping (messy and can easily get lost), SZ is ok with the theme park.
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE hold on to your kids while there.......it is NOT Singapore......kids to get \"lost\" easily....so, short of telling you to hold on with an leash and an implanted chip ..... -
mckenzy:
i've heard that ShenZhen not safe for kids... go there with 2... come back with 1
you really scare me. I thought of bring there to shop and go to happy valley.
Have u been there? -
KELLY2009:
A cousin's colleague lost two kids there last yearmckenzy:
i've heard that ShenZhen not safe for kids... go there with 2... come back with 1
you really scare me. I thought of bring there to shop and go to happy valley.
Have u been there?
Still not found
Also, a few years back, a Singaporean housewife (husband posted there) with the kid at a super market - just turn the corner at the end of the aisle in a super market : the kid just vanished.......they stayed in the same condo upstairs with our senior staff
Can bring kids - but hor, hold on for dear life if you are in public area. NEVER NEVER let them wander out of sight - even within a few meters
Don't know whether they use any gas / drug or not, they just able to get the kids off without any sound -
verykiasu2010:
My GOD, serious!! :shock: :shock:
A cousin's colleague lost two kids there last year
Still not found
Also, a few years back, a Singaporean housewife (husband posted there) with the kid at a super market - just turn the corner at the end of the aisle in a super market : the kid just vanished.......they stayed in the same condo upstairs with our senior staff
I am NOT bringing DS if I am accompanying DH for work purpose ... -
When u hear stories like this, it’s really worthwhile putting one’s child on the kid’s leash. I don’t care what others think of me. Better be safe than sorry.
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Kidnapped and robbed
A reader shares his traumatic experience in China and warns potential visitors
Letter from Ho Kwok Hoong 05:55 AM Nov 03, 2010
ON OCT 12, I was heading to Shenzhen Airport when I decided to stop at Dongguan for some last-minute shopping.
While there, I was assaulted, robbed and held captive for four hours. I am writing this letter to share my experience with fellow Singaporeans travelling to China.
An elderly woman approached me along a busy street in Changping district to peddle some electronic items. She told me more of her products were kept elsewhere and lured me into a nearby vacant house where a group of men jumped on me and tied me up.
The muggers told me they had also kidnapped another person, a Malaysian, who was in the room adjacent to where I was being held. They were not interested in the few hundred renminbi I had on me but went for my ATM card and demanded my PIN number. I refused and, for the next two hours, they rained more than 30 punches on my head and body.
I came to realise later that it was pointless to resist them as it was not worth risking my life over a $3,000 withdrawal. They released me, and the other victim, two hours later.
Before my release, one of the kidnappers told me their targets were Hong Kongers, Singaporeans and Malaysians. These were the people they believed to be richer and they identified them by the way these nationalities wear a pouch bag.
It dawned on me that it had been a stupid move to have followed the woman into an unknown place.
I made a police report at the Changping police station but was not even given a carbon copy of my report.
Upon safely arriving back in Singapore, I obtained the assistance of the staff at the United Overseas Bank who gave me information on the location of the ATM in China and the time the robbers withdrew money from my account. I was hoping that the ATM surveillance camera had captured the faces of the robbers but to no avail.
For the next 10 days, I tried calling the Chinese investigating officer (IO) in charge of my case but was unsuccessful. Subsequently, as a last resort, I sought the help of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs here.
When I finally got through to the Chinese IO recently, he told me that such investigations take time and that I have to be patient even though I had provided him with the ATM withdrawal details.
I am still recovering from the injuries I sustained from the punches to my head and body. I urge Singaporeans to take extra care when travelling to China and to stay alert when out in the streets.
http://www.todayonline.com/Voices/EDC101103-0000058/Kidnapped-and-robbed
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