Hwa Chong Institution (High School)

[lizawa]

fruitplus:

wonderm:

Maybe you can find out from RI about your ds chance of getting in at their briefing session. Do they have similar briefing to people on Waitlist?

wonderm, I guess the 2nd best (wait list) are not as important to RI, not briefing session at all. Sigh.

I suppose few people with CO from RI will give up their places, that's why maybe WL for RI has a more remote chance. Nevertheless, the PSLE results is still more important.

[fruitplus]

Thanks wonderm and lizawa.


I guess that is the only thing I can do. Encourage him to do well in PSLE.

But you know boys being boys, they are more playful and less matured than girls of the same age. I practically have to sit beside my son to ensure he really study and not playing facebook games. All his science notes are on Powerpoint slides (too many to print out), and this is his weakest subject besides Chinese.

Last time no such problem with my girl when she was P6, I actually had to ask her to take a break!

Real average result for his case, all scores around his level’s average and sometimes slightly below average. I don’t know whether can score in PSLE and meet the T-score for RI or HCI. And whether he needs the ‘safety net’ (will not kick out students) in HCI. Guess-timate T-score for him calculated by SA1 is around 250 to 260 if he maintain his usual standard.

That is where the real headache comes.

[d1s2]

lizawa:

fruitplus:

[quote=\"wonderm\"]

Maybe you can find out from RI about your ds chance of getting in at their briefing session. Do they have similar briefing to people on Waitlist?

wonderm, I guess the 2nd best (wait list) are not as important to RI, not briefing session at all. Sigh.

I suppose few people with CO from RI will give up their places, that's why maybe WL for RI has a more remote chance. Nevertheless, the PSLE results is still more important.[/quote]I also thought that WL for RI would have a lesser chance but last year, all of my son's friend's (about 5/6) who were on the WL for RI were all offered places. My son and a few of his friends gave up RI and chose HCI instead.

[wonderm]

d1s2:

lizawa:

[quote=\"fruitplus\"]
wonderm, I guess the 2nd best (wait list) are not as important to RI, not briefing session at all. Sigh.

I suppose few people with CO from RI will give up their places, that's why maybe WL for RI has a more remote chance. Nevertheless, the PSLE results is still more important.

I also thought that WL for RI would have a lesser chance but last year, all of my son's friend's (about 5/6) who were on the WL for RI were all offered places. My son and a few of his friends gave up RI and chose HCI instead.[/quote]Since many people are offered by both RI and HCI, and maybe also ACSI and NUSH. I don't think ALL of those with multiple offers will choose RI. RI could have estimated number of people who will give up their CO and gave out WL accordingly. That could explain why RI WL is shorter than other schools, and it could also mean those given RI WL have the same high chance of getting it?

[jtoh]

fruitplus:

d1s2:

[quote=\"ApronMama\"]I was told in HCI , the child needs to work very hard. Academically wise is demanding, there is independent studies besdies exam which determine the new promotional criteria at sec two, if did not meet the criteria got to do 'O' level. My neighbour transferred the child to non-IP to continue sec 3 & 4 when he was asked to do 'O' level, also partly due to independent school fee every month.

I think you work hard but you also get to play. They get a week of sabbatical at the end of 3 terms, that they get to bid for fun courses such as IT classes, fencing, scrabbles, F1 workshop, hip hop,..... totally no regular lessons. That's what they are doing this week

Regarding the O levels, I understand that they do find that not all kids cope with the IP curriculum and in such situations, the school feels that O levels may be better for them. They have 1 class of about 20 students on the O levels track where I was told that the best teachers are assigned to. The students can go back to the IP track later if they are coping better. According to HCI, once they've accepted a student into the school, they are committed to helping the child go all the way to JC.

Yes, the principal promised in the Open House that HCI will not 'abandon' our kids, while RI will ask students who did not do well enough to leave the school （happened to my daughter's senior, he was transferred out of the school, but he is doing extremely well now).

In yesterday's DSA waitlist 1 briefing, the principal said that all students in waitlist 1 are guarenteed to get a place.

My son waitlisted for both RI and HCI, but most of his friends are choosing RI. And RI is nearer to our house. Yet, chances of getting RI is unknown, but HCI is 100% even though it is waitlist (provided we put HCI as 1st choice).

Headache![/quote]I don't understand this. If everyone on waitlist 1 is guaranteed a place, then why didn't they just offer them a confirmed place to begin with? Doesn't make sense.

[Abitworried]

perhaps HCI knows at least 100 of the P6 given CO have multiple COs, espcially from RI as well. From the interview, they did ask where else they applied for. So they expect the GEP list to choose RI as first choice, thereby opening up for WaitList 1.


this is very likely based on previous years. HCI usually gives out more CO to mainstream students than RI does.

[Guthix]

jtoh:

fruitplus:

[quote=\"d1s2\"]
I think you work hard but you also get to play. They get a week of sabbatical at the end of 3 terms, that they get to bid for fun courses such as IT classes, fencing, scrabbles, F1 workshop, hip hop,..... totally no regular lessons. That's what they are doing this week

Regarding the O levels, I understand that they do find that not all kids cope with the IP curriculum and in such situations, the school feels that O levels may be better for them. They have 1 class of about 20 students on the O levels track where I was told that the best teachers are assigned to. The students can go back to the IP track later if they are coping better. According to HCI, once they've accepted a student into the school, they are committed to helping the child go all the way to JC.

Yes, the principal promised in the Open House that HCI will not 'abandon' our kids, while RI will ask students who did not do well enough to leave the school （happened to my daughter's senior, he was transferred out of the school, but he is doing extremely well now).

In yesterday's DSA waitlist 1 briefing, the principal said that all students in waitlist 1 are guarenteed to get a place.

My son waitlisted for both RI and HCI, but most of his friends are choosing RI. And RI is nearer to our house. Yet, chances of getting RI is unknown, but HCI is 100% even though it is waitlist (provided we put HCI as 1st choice).

Headache!

I don't understand this. If everyone on waitlist 1 is guaranteed a place, then why didn't they just offer them a confirmed place to begin with? Doesn't make sense.[/quote]It is because the MOE has guidelines as to the ratio of COes to Vacancy, probably that the schools are not allowed to give more COes than the Vacancies available.

[fruitplus]

Abitworried:

perhaps HCI knows at least 100 of the P6 given CO have multiple COs, espcially from RI as well. From the interview, they did ask where else they applied for. So they expect the GEP list to choose RI as first choice, thereby opening up for WaitList 1.


this is very likely based on previous years. HCI usually gives out more CO to mainstream students than RI does.

That's right. HCI said roughly half of those got CO from both RI and HCI will choose RI. Yes, it is based on the pass few years' statistics.

[fruitplus]

wonderm:

d1s2:

[quote=\"lizawa\"]
I suppose few people with CO from RI will give up their places, that's why maybe WL for RI has a more remote chance. Nevertheless, the PSLE results is still more important.

I also thought that WL for RI would have a lesser chance but last year, all of my son's friend's (about 5/6) who were on the WL for RI were all offered places. My son and a few of his friends gave up RI and chose HCI instead.

Since many people are offered by both RI and HCI, and maybe also ACSI and NUSH. I don't think ALL of those with multiple offers will choose RI. RI could have estimated number of people who will give up their CO and gave out WL accordingly. That could explain why RI WL is shorter than other schools, and it could also mean those given RI WL have the same high chance of getting it?[/quote]Thanks d1s2 and wonderm. I hope that is the case. DS prefers RI (although I feels that HCI suits him more than RI, DS is the friendly and easygoing type).

[Guthix]

wonderm:

d1s2:

[quote=\"lizawa\"]
I suppose few people with CO from RI will give up their places, that's why maybe WL for RI has a more remote chance. Nevertheless, the PSLE results is still more important.

I also thought that WL for RI would have a lesser chance but last year, all of my son's friend's (about 5/6) who were on the WL for RI were all offered places. My son and a few of his friends gave up RI and chose HCI instead.

Since many people are offered by both RI and HCI, and maybe also ACSI and NUSH. I don't think ALL of those with multiple offers will choose RI. RI could have estimated number of people who will give up their CO and gave out WL accordingly. That could explain why RI WL is shorter than other schools, and it could also mean those given RI WL have the same high chance of getting it?[/quote]Very true. A lot of my child's classmates are being influenced by each other and the whole class is like a battle of propaganda between the schools. 3 major \"sects\", RI, HCI, NUSHS tries to pull the most classmates to join them. Quite a lot have been wavered by NUSHS' Module System and HCI's humanities. For now, there, as far as my son tells me, a stalemate