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    Poorly designed Math questions misconstrued as tricky

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    • jedamumJ Offline
      jedamum
      last edited by

      ksi:
      Example 2:


      http://i724.photobucket.com/albums/ww246/ks2me/P1020340-1.jpg\">

      Can you solve this?

      What is wrong?
      which level of question is this?
      is the answer 112?

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        Blobbi
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        I think the second question will benefit by adding the phrase \"following the pathways\". But because the picture has the pathways nicely drawn with the distances written on them, it would be fairly obvious to kids with more experience (maybe upper primary).


        Number 1 is outright wrong. Straight is straight mah!

        These days, math IS English, sigh.

        I don't see it as blaming the teacher either. But I'm sure they'd like to know that the questions can be misconstrued easily too. Don't think they planned for it to be wrong or unfair. We all make mistakes mah. What's important is to fix it and git on with life :).

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        • V Offline
          verykiasu2010
          last edited by

          There was a two marks question recently in the prelim paper


          The kids spent too much time solving the question, more than what 2 marks deserve…resulting is just merely finishing the paper…no time to check for careless mistakes…then the teacher said all the answers provided in the choices are possible answers and everyone was given the two marks

          The kid complained it is unfair because those who did not attempt the question also got the two marks, since the teachers decided it was a bad question, and the kids true enough lost a few other marks due to carelessness not spotted…which would have had enough time to do checking if not due the "impossible" question…hope the actual PSLE will not be like that

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            verykiasu2010
            last edited by

            jedamum:
            ksi:

            Example 2:


            http://i724.photobucket.com/albums/ww246/ks2me/P1020340-1.jpg\">

            Can you solve this?

            What is wrong?

            which level of question is this?
            is the answer 112?

            did my eyes play trick on me ?

            how can the paths 35m + 32m is shorter than the diagonal straight path of 69m ? i am confused

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              jtoh
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              verykiasu2010:
              There was a two marks question recently in the prelim paper


              The kids spent too much time solving the question, more than what 2 marks deserve..resulting is just merely finishing the paper...no time to check for careless mistakes...then the teacher said all the answers provided in the choices are possible answers and everyone was given the two marks

              The kid complained it is unfair because those who did not attempt the question also got the two marks, since the teachers decided it was a bad question, and the kids true enough lost a few other marks due to carelessness not spotted...which would have had enough time to do checking if not due the \"impossible\" question.....hope the actual PSLE will not be like that
              This happened in a PSLE question a few years ago. I can't remember whether it was a Math or Science question. The question was faulty and in the end, every student was awarded points for that question. Which is unfair for the same reasons you pointed out.

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                verykiasu2010
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                jtoh:
                verykiasu2010:

                There was a two marks question recently in the prelim paper


                The kids spent too much time solving the question, more than what 2 marks deserve..resulting is just merely finishing the paper...no time to check for careless mistakes...then the teacher said all the answers provided in the choices are possible answers and everyone was given the two marks

                The kid complained it is unfair because those who did not attempt the question also got the two marks, since the teachers decided it was a bad question, and the kids true enough lost a few other marks due to carelessness not spotted...which would have had enough time to do checking if not due the \"impossible\" question.....hope the actual PSLE will not be like that

                This happened in a PSLE question a few years ago. I can't remember whether it was a Math or Science question. The question was faulty and in the end, every student was awarded points for that question. Which is unfair for the same reasons you pointed out.

                my kid was upset because he and his friends could all have gotten 100 marks

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                • corneyAmberC Offline
                  corneyAmber
                  last edited by

                  Jedamum, these are P2 questions.


                  Brenda, Jedamum, for Q1 the answer key is (3) 3 not 2, so I don't know how 3 is derived since both of you at least can get 2 unanimously... :?

                  Jedamum, for Q2, the answer is 110m.....heh heh, you also look at the diagonal as shortest so you get 112m!

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                  • corneyAmberC Offline
                    corneyAmber
                    last edited by

                    Blobbi:
                    I think the second question will benefit by adding the phrase \"following the pathways\". But because the picture has the pathways nicely drawn with the distances written on them, it would be fairly obvious to kids with more experience (maybe upper primary).


                    Number 1 is outright wrong. Straight is straight mah!

                    These days, math IS English, sigh.

                    I don't see it as blaming the teacher either. But I'm sure they'd like to know that the questions can be misconstrued easily too. Don't think they planned for it to be wrong or unfair. We all make mistakes mah. What's important is to fix it and git on with life :).
                    :hi5: Blobbi...no point blaming teacher so the purpose of this thread is to flag out the strange questions that should be eliminated for exams. It is to alert teachers to look into this thread first before setting their exam questions.

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                    • corneyAmberC Offline
                      corneyAmber
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                      verykiasu2010:
                      There was a two marks question recently in the prelim paper


                      The kids spent too much time solving the question, more than what 2 marks deserve..resulting is just merely finishing the paper...no time to check for careless mistakes...then the teacher said all the answers provided in the choices are possible answers and everyone was given the two marks

                      The kid complained it is unfair because those who did not attempt the question also got the two marks, since the teachers decided it was a bad question, and the kids true enough lost a few other marks due to carelessness not spotted...which would have had enough time to do checking if not due the \"impossible\" question.....hope the actual PSLE will not be like that
                      That is so uncool right? Stressing the kids unduly......

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                      • corneyAmberC Offline
                        corneyAmber
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                        verykiasu2010:

                        did my eyes play trick on me ?

                        how can the paths 35m + 32m is shorter than the diagonal straight path of 69m ? i am confused
                        That is exactly my point vks2010. It is against the principle, not just visual.

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