CHIJ Toa Payoh Secondary
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janet_lee88:
I am sure that it will! The school actually tried to get on the IP program and the MOE came to test the girls one or two years ago fyi. They may succeed sometime in the future thoughI was transferred to CHIJ Kellock only at P5 & moved to CHIJ TP (wonderful feeling being the first batch of P6 students).
In the primary school, discipline was strict and there was a feeling of some disciplinary mistress breathing down the neck at all times.
Could it be there is no disciplinary mistress in the secondary school ?? If they can pull one over from the primary school, I'm sure the belts will stay at the waist and there is no such thing as smoking or dyed hair.
I think that in order for discipline to be enforced, you need the buy in of the P and the rest of the staff. I dont think that one can rely on the disciplinary mistress solely - it is an uphill battle that she faces on a daily basis and a thankless job to boot!
I really really hope the affiliation stays, or else former girls like us won't find any added incentive to send our daughters back to the school. -
janet_lee88:
You are most welcome!Quintessential Mum:
Hi Janet_lee88 Don't worry, primary school is alright. Try to do well and move on to CHIJ St Nicks Secondary and do IP.
I will be investing more time and effort on my daughter...and hope she does well to get into a better secondary school...wonderful if she can make it to CHIJ St Nicholas. That would be great. Appreciate all the wonderful advice you have given. Thanks:) I pray that the situation improves in the Sec school too. It has a long standing reputation since Victoria Street.
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momof4:
It is heartening to know that your DD has such positive qualities and it must be thru your efforts and nurturing. She is lucky to have a concern and loving mum lke yourself. :celebrate:Quintessential Mum,
The teachers did talk to her. In P3 she actually befriended my dd and was seen as best friends. When they were put into the same class again in sec1, she stuck on to my dd. My dd is the tolerant type and will just ignore her negative side. At that age she wasn't violent but just very vocal. It's in her character, nothing much the school could do. -
Just wondering…how did the girls become so rebellious and undergo a total transformation when they go to the secondary side…esp if the girls in the primary school are well-behaved and face strict discipline.
Could these girls in the secondary school come from other primary schools ? What’s the cut-off point to enter IJ Secondary ?
After reading all the posts, I am convinced that the primary school is definitely ok in the sense that the principal is warm, discipline is strict but I would need to work with my girl so that she can join St Nicholas Sec (hopefully). -
Quintessential Mum:
Thank you for your compliments. But at this age, we parents can only show our care, concern and support. Nothing much we can do.
It is heartening to know that your DD has such positive qualities and it must be thru your efforts and nurturing. She is lucky to have a concern and loving mum lke yourself. :celebrate: -
momof4:
Thanks for sharing your experience! Just to let you know that we are not affected by all the negative stuff at the school as we know what is right and what is wrong and i have encouraged independent learning from a young age.
I agree with you on the school's non-committed stance. I was like you 2 years ago, when dd1 was in Sec 2. Feeling so helpless, seeing my dd struggling, teachers with don't care attitude, And the P doing don't know what. There was hardly any teaching in class. I remember crying and having sleepless nights then. But things changed when she went to Sec3. She got the best form teacher who is also able to motivate her students to excel. My dd is very lucky in this case, some other classes are not so fortunate. As for dd2, oh, the teachers now are much much better than dd1's sec1teachers. Luckily they have all left.Quintessential Mum:
Good to hear from you! I agree about the quality as there are one or two real gems - teachers there. But many good ones have left already. Sadly, the not so good ones are still around!
I encouraged my DD to continue with a mission school because of the character building and religious aspects as i firmly believe that they are very important. However, i believe that the Secondary school falls short in this area and should seek to improve instead of burying its head in the sand.
As for discipline, I agree that this school is not as strict as the primary school. A lot of depends on the form teacher. The fierce ones will scold but the bochap ones will just pretend to not see. But my experience with the students have been good. My dd and friends are very mature and sensible. I asked her about the highlighting, tongue stud, nose stud, etc, she said she has seen a couple with highlight, but the rest she's not seen. So I can't comment on that. But for the wearing of uniform, belt at wrong place etc, I think this has been around for decades. It's like a fashion statement. Some still do it, but I find there are less now compared to before? Maybe the notorious ones are the ones making their presence felt and the guai ones are busy studying in school or at home.
The thing that gets my goat is that the school has lost its focus in terms of discipline, values etc and the P and staff are not doing their best. As a result a large portion of the student population are affected. I agree that the quality of the students in terms of academic is average but that is fine as long as they teach the students to strive and do the best that they can within their capabilities - that is the attitude that should be inculcated in the young people! So even if they decide to be a doctor, secretary, housewife, they will carry these values wherever they go and do the best job possible! -
janet_lee88:
I remember teachers like Miss Dorothy Schooling (sec side). As for primary school teachers, there is Miss Gladys and Miss Collars (coincidentally she is one of the writers of Maths textbook which my son is using).
I agree with you on the school's non-committed stance.momof4:
[quote=\"Quintessential Mum\"]
Good to hear from you! I agree about the quality as there are one or two real gems - teachers there. But many good ones have left already. Sadly, the not so good ones are still around! I encouraged my DD to continue with a mission school because of the character building and religious aspects as i firmly believe that they are very important. However, i believe that the Secondary school falls short in this area and should seek to improve instead of burying its head in the sand.
As for discipline, I agree that this school is not as strict as the primary school. A lot of depends on the form teacher. The fierce ones will scold but the bochap ones will just pretend to not see. But my experience with the students have been good. My dd and friends are very mature and sensible. I asked her about the highlighting, tongue stud, nose stud, etc, she said she has seen a couple with highlight, but the rest she's not seen. So I can't comment on that. But for the wearing of uniform, belt at wrong place etc, I think this has been around for decades. It's like a fashion statement. Some still do it, but I find there are less now compared to before? Maybe the notorious ones are the ones making their presence felt and the guai ones are busy studying in school or at home.
Of course this school cannot be compared to schools like cedar or st nicks, cos the quality of students differ greatly. This is one area we parents have to take into account when choosing school for our kids.
But we all came out well.
The old batch of girls like us turned out well...well at least well enough to send our daughters back to CHIJ Toa Payoh. I have a strong feeling for IJ TP although I'm staying nearer to CHIJ at Chestnut Dr.[/quote]Yup the good old days! -
janet_lee88:
It's a growing up phase. Even the principal told us during the sec 1 parents meet. A lot of sec1 parents complain about their dds turning into monsters, but when they reach sec3 suddenly they become angels again. It's been like this for years, she said. my dd1 is like this. She didn't turn into a monster but definitely had some attitude. My dd2 is also temperamental now. Think it's their hormones acting up.Just wondering...how did the girls become so rebellious and undergo a total transformation when they go to the secondary side...esp if the girls in the primary school are well-behaved and face strict discipline.
Could these girls in the secondary school come from other primary schools ? What's the cut-off point to enter IJ Secondary ?
After reading all the posts, I am convinced that the primary school is definitely ok in the sense that the principal is warm, discipline is strict but I would need to work with my girl so that she can join St Nicholas Sec (hopefully). -
momof4:
Yes, i agree that the different backgrounds and races are good so that the students learn to interact with all levels and cultures. Vis a Vis a SAP school. If only the school mgt can get their act together, it will elevate CHIJ TP Sec to greater heights!Janet_lee88 & patpattan,
I agree with both of you. IJ girls are creative, confident, proactive. It's the way the school trains us to be. And we do not discriminate, we are friends with the rich and the poor, the strong and the weak, etc. I think this school is a good training ground. -
janet_lee88:
Oh my gosh! From what i gather, the P is hardly around and the VP is always in charge. The P is around for school overseas trips though
IJ TP has an art elective program...it's a very program for girls who are artistically talented.momof4:
Janet_lee88 & patpattan,
I agree with both of you. IJ girls are creative, confident, proactive. It's the way the school trains us to be. And we do not discriminate, we are friends with the rich and the poor, the strong and the weak, etc. I think this school is a good training ground.
Actually the girls who are rich and intelligent are not snobbish...it's the principal who likes to cuddle them with all the 'hi dear'. At parent-teacher meetings, the principal welcomed these parents with open arms and even addresses them 'Mrs Chan or 'Mr Tan'. :x
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