Pei Hwa Presbyterian Primary

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Mrsbongz:

perhaps our current GEP programs isn't structured well enough to bring out the best in these children, hence the not-as-spectacular results from these gifted children.. each child is gifted in their own ways.. how to tailor a program to fit all these unique children? too difficult...


I rather have the GEP on a subject to subject basis, rather than as a class/school... as I realise that children are gifted in only some areas.. not all.. but this can be done by schools' subject banding already, no need for transfer of schools for 'GEP'

I have a fren who's son is selected for 2nd round GEP tests.. he is smart, but more because he's very well taught by his parents and preschool.. the mom's excited, but I wonder if the programs is the best option for the child..

Exactly....we have GEP, we have subject banding, now MOE is piloting 'cottage' class......they themselves do not know which is the right formula......

[verykiasu2010]

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Jennifer:

[quote=\"janet_lee88\"]Hi Comfy,

The focus on Maths & Science was what the prev principal mentioned...but I have no idea whether the school has this plan. However, the Maths & Science exams are pretty tough.

My elder boy had PE teachers as his Science teachers in P4 semester 2 and whole of P5, then P6 the HOD Science. All taught according to textbooks. No useful labs sessions (according to my boy lah). I dun see where the focus was.

Jennifer, i heard from my friend and this happened in other schools too. If you are going to depend on the textbook to do well, then you can simply forget about it.... there are too little information in there....what you can find in the textbook is just the basic concept and keywords that you need to know...the rest will be up to the kids to explore and research and apply correctly during the exam....so it is very different from the ways we learnt Science last time.....dd has another one more year to go, so i don't really bother to find out more about primary science. we wou ld know where there will be any changes coming up...[/quote]just my personal experience : i-science is better than my pals are here for the science subject - content wise

[verykiasu2010]

php:

Ask yourself the following questions :-

How many top PSLE scholar come from GEP class each year?
How many top 'O' or 'A' level scholar come from GEP class each year?

Ans : The majority will come from non-GEP.....

If the assessment method is able to detect the top 5% gifted kids in each cohort, then a more decent figure of said 90-95% of them should come from GEP class, but this is not the case.

in the recent prelim (P6) more than half the top 10 in the whole cohort is from mainstream, and the #2 is from non-GEP (this is for one school around bukit timah)

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verykiasu2010:

php:

Ask yourself the following questions :-

How many top PSLE scholar come from GEP class each year?
How many top 'O' or 'A' level scholar come from GEP class each year?

Ans : The majority will come from non-GEP.....

If the assessment method is able to detect the top 5% gifted kids in each cohort, then a more decent figure of said 90-95% of them should come from GEP class, but this is not the case.

in the recent prelim (P6) more than half the top 10 in the whole cohort is from mainstream, and the #2 is from non-GEP (this is for one school around bukit timah)

And that school is NYPS, right?

[janet88]

Most of the kids leave PH for Nanyang GEP. Maybe some of the girls will head for RGPS.


The present Science textbook ‘My Pals’ is simply hopeless…no way can a student pass if he/she depends on it. Don’t tell me this is the ‘teach less know more’ approach…hope they can switch to a text with more info bcos not every child or parent will know how to source for reference books.

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janet_lee88:

Most of the kids leave PH for Nanyang GEP. Maybe some of the girls will head for RGPS.


The present Science textbook 'My Pals' is simply hopeless...no way can a student pass if he/she depends on it. Don't tell me this is the 'teach less know more' approach...hope they can switch to a text with more info bcos not every child or parent will know how to source for reference books.

but i heard all the textbook are more or less the same... you can't find one textbook where you can get all the information you want. the school expects the kids to do their own research.....so if the parents are too lazy to do the job, then the best solution is to find a good enrichment centre for the kids.....

[janet88]

Hi php,

I thought there might be better textbooks. Sometimes, parents may not be lazy to do research but don’t have the knowledge to do so.
Just curious, any old boy or girl from Pei Hwa here ? What was the standard during your time ??

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janet_lee88:

Hi php,

I thought there might be better textbooks. Sometimes, parents may not be lazy to do research but don't have the knowledge to do so.
Just curious, any old boy or girl from Pei Hwa here ? What was the standard during your time ??

sorry, not meant all parents are lazy...forgot to mention those having difficulty in gathering information. i believe they want kids to think 'out-of-box' - exploring on their own.

[janet88]

Hi php,

Kids at P3 or P4 won’t know how to get more info unlike P6 maybe.
There are 5 chapters to handle and it’s very time-consuming to run around for info. Science paper is set so tough…really pity the kids.

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janet_lee88:

Hi php,

Kids at P3 or P4 won't know how to get more info unlike P6 maybe.
There are 5 chapters to handle and it's very time-consuming to run around for info. Science paper is set so tough...really pity the kids.

kids have to start somewhere. when my dd was in kindy, they had a programme called Junior Scientist. the kids had to use computer to search for information and then presented them....dd was an expert in google search, yahoo search, etc ....but this must be done with adult presence. This is the direction where schools are moving to....in this internet world....Definitely P3 and P4 kids are more than capable in doing that but it is the parents that are worried and don't allow the kids to expose excessively to the wired world.....