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    MathQA tutor - Ask your A-level Maths questions here!

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    • M Offline
      mathqa
      last edited by

      Hi all,


      Allow me to open this humble thread to assist students who are preparing for their A-level Maths examination.

      Within my ability and time budget, I will try to response to all questions.

      For clarity, questions with geometry or complex formula, let's use PNG image format for posting.

      MathQA Min Tan.

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        OK Lor
        last edited by

        Hi,


        I’m not taking A-level Maths this year, but interested to know the solution for part (b):

        If x(t) and y(t) are variables satisfying the differential equations
        dy/dt + 2 dx/dt = 2x +5 and dy/dt – dx/dt = 2y + t,
        (a) Show that 3 d²y/dt² - 6 dy/dt + 4y = 2 – 2t.
        (b) Find the solution x in terms of t for the second order of differential equation given that y(0) = y’(0) = pi.

        Thanks.

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          iFruit
          last edited by

          OK Lor:
          Hi,


          I'm not taking A-level Maths this year, but interested to know the solution for part (b):

          If x(t) and y(t) are variables satisfying the differential equations
          dy/dt + 2 dx/dt = 2x +5 and dy/dt – dx/dt = 2y + t,
          (a) Show that 3 d²y/dt² - 6 dy/dt + 4y = 2 – 2t.
          (b) Find the solution x in terms of t for the second order of differential equation given that y(0) = y’(0) = pi.

          Thanks.
          Hi OK Lor,

          Is this A-level question? AFAI can see, The equation is a non-homogeneous linear differential equation, so it needs some background to understand the solution..

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            OK Lor
            last edited by

            Hi iFruit,

            This question is from Malaysia A level paper which I came across while browsing the web :!: .
            Thanks.

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              iFruit
              last edited by

              OK Lor:
              Hi iFruit,

              This question is from Malaysia A level paper which I came across while browsing the web :!: .
              Thanks.
              From what I understand ( the wording is not great), it is asking for a solution of the equation 3 d²y/dt² - 6 dy/dt + 4y = 2 – 2t given the initial conditions.

              Let me know if you are interested, I can try and and work out a solution (need to recollect my linear diff equations first) but as I said it needs some background theory on linear diff equations first.

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                atutor2001
                last edited by

                OK Lor:
                Hi,


                I'm not taking A-level Maths this year, but interested to know the solution for part (b):

                If x(t) and y(t) are variables satisfying the differential equations
                dy/dt + 2 dx/dt = 2x +5 and dy/dt – dx/dt = 2y + t,
                (a) Show that 3 d²y/dt² - 6 dy/dt + 4y = 2 – 2t.
                (b) Find the solution x in terms of t for the second order of differential equation given that y(0) = y’(0) = pi.

                Thanks.
                diff both statement wrt to t
                so the first one is y'' + 2x'' =2x'
                second one is y'' - x'' =2y'+1

                then simulataneous : statement 1 + 2 x statement 2
                so we get 3y''=2x'+4y'+2

                then we sub y'-x'=2y+t (2nd given eqn) into it

                3y'' = 2(y'-2y-t) +4y' +2
                3y'' = 2y'-4y-2t+4y'+2
                3y'' = 6y'-4y-2t+2
                3y''-6y'+4y =2-2t

                Disclaimer : Above working not from me. Was chatting with my kid so took the opportunity to test :lol:

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                  mathqa
                  last edited by

                  iFruit:
                  OK Lor:

                  Hi,


                  I'm not taking A-level Maths this year, but interested to know the solution for part (b):

                  If x(t) and y(t) are variables satisfying the differential equations
                  dy/dt + 2 dx/dt = 2x +5 and dy/dt – dx/dt = 2y + t,
                  (a) Show that 3 d²y/dt² - 6 dy/dt + 4y = 2 – 2t.
                  (b) Find the solution x in terms of t for the second order of differential equation given that y(0) = y’(0) = pi.

                  Thanks.

                  Hi OK Lor,

                  Is this A-level question? AFAI can see, The equation is a non-homogeneous linear differential equation, so it needs some background to understand the solution..

                  iFruit is right to point out that this question is non-homogeneous linear differential equation. But it is nice to have for A level since it would test students's competence in many areas at once.

                  The solution is is posted at my blog. Cannot post it here due to oversize images.

                  http://mathqa.blogspot.com/2010/11/nonhomgeneous-differential-equations.html

                  MathQA

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                    OK Lor
                    last edited by

                    mathqa:
                    iFruit:

                    [quote=\"OK Lor\"]Hi,


                    I'm not taking A-level Maths this year, but interested to know the solution for part (b):

                    If x(t) and y(t) are variables satisfying the differential equations
                    dy/dt + 2 dx/dt = 2x +5 and dy/dt – dx/dt = 2y + t,
                    (a) Show that 3 d²y/dt² - 6 dy/dt + 4y = 2 – 2t.
                    (b) Find the solution x in terms of t for the second order of differential equation given that y(0) = y’(0) = pi.

                    Thanks.

                    Hi OK Lor,

                    Is this A-level question? AFAI can see, The equation is a non-homogeneous linear differential equation, so it needs some background to understand the solution..

                    iFruit is right to point out that this question is non-homogeneous linear differential equation. But it is nice to have for A level since it would test students's competence in many areas at once.

                    The solution is is posted at my blog. Cannot post it here due to oversize images.

                    http://mathqa.blogspot.com/2010/11/nonhomgeneous-differential-equations.html

                    MathQA[/quote]Hi,

                    Thanks to all the Maths Guru here 😄

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                      iFruit
                      last edited by

                      mathqa:


                      If x(t) and y(t) are variables satisfying the differential equations
                      dy/dt + 2 dx/dt = 2x +5 and dy/dt – dx/dt = 2y + t,
                      (a) Show that 3 d²y/dt² - 6 dy/dt + 4y = 2 – 2t.
                      (b) Find the solution x in terms of t for the second order of differential equation given that y(0) = y’(0) = pi.

                      The solution is is posted at my blog. Cannot post it here due to oversize images.

                      http://mathqa.blogspot.com/2010/11/nonhomgeneous-differential-equations.html

                      MathQA
                      Hi MathQA,

                      Nice working. But I think there is a small mistake in it. You can't apply initial conditions to the homogeneous equation (equation 6) as they are initial conditions for non-homogeneous equation. That's why your solution doesn't tally back for initial conditions. Also particular solution C = -11/4

                      The solution after applying initial conditions to the general equation should be (pi = π)

                      x(t) = ((1-2π)/4) e^t cos(t/√3) - (√3(1+2π)/4) e^t sin(t/√3) - 11/4

                      Regards.

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                        atutor2001
                        last edited by

                        Whoa! So scary. Read so many times also no understand. I didn’t know my poor kids have been subjected to such "torture". Must be nicer to them now.


                        So funny when comparing this to Pr Math. Parents are making so much noise when kids are in Pr but did not know what their older kids are facing.

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