All About Weiqi and Chess

[Mathmaniac]

qizai:

smurf:

Weiqi is more fun I guess...it's not as simple as forming lines, but you need to place the 'qi' at a strategic place to eventually beat your opponent.


And there are many ways of playing weiqi whereas for chess, the movement is fixed.

Weiqi is more complicated than chess, in terms of the trees of possibilities.

But for a child, chess pieces look quite cute and varied, even though their movements are fixed.

In terms of permutations, weiqi is definitely more complicated. However, chess alone is difficult to master.

Both are games easy to pick up. There are various similarities like opening strategies, middle games, end games, etc.

And both reap the same benefits in helping the mind to develop more logical thinking.

[sandybeach]

qizai:

smurf:

Weiqi is more fun I guess...it's not as simple as forming lines, but you need to place the 'qi' at a strategic place to eventually beat your opponent.


And there are many ways of playing weiqi whereas for chess, the movement is fixed.

Weiqi is more complicated than chess, in terms of the trees of possibilities.

But for a child, chess pieces look quite cute and varied, even though their movements are fixed.

no no no.. and yes yes yes,

:celebrate:

I manage to learn the game of weiqi in an hour. its really easy, just need to surround the seeds and i can capture it. It is really fun to start playing. Whereas for chess, I need to memorize every moves of the pieces, thus, i don't really like chess.

Although I only played Weiqi afew times, I heard that the strategy for weiqi can become very complex, and no computer program today could beat a low level professional..

[ramgee]

Hello,


My son is 7 yrs and has been picking up chess from parents. Hes getting good now and we are wondering if he can join any chess clubs where he gets to play with children who are equally skilled.

Greatly appreciate your suggestions.

Thanks!

[Pen88n]

ramgee:

Hello,


My son is 7 yrs and has been picking up chess from parents. Hes getting good now and we are wondering if he can join any chess clubs where he gets to play with children who are equally skilled.

Greatly appreciate your suggestions.

Thanks!

If his school has a chess club, that might be good to start him there as it will become a good CCA later and he has interest in it.

[Petlover]

If you're taking about international chess. You can take a look at the following chess clubs :


IntChess http://www.intchessasia.com/site/index.htm

Chesskidz http://www.chess-kidz.com/

PowerChess http://www.powerchess.org/

[bengbeng]

Weiqi is more complicated. why I say that? it is beacause Weiqi is the last game that computer can’t defeat human.

[sydney]

weiqi is easier to learn.

[cimman]

smurf:

Weiqi is more fun I guess...it's not as simple as forming lines, but you need to place the 'qi' at a strategic place to eventually beat your opponent.


And there are many ways of playing weiqi whereas for chess, the movement is fixed.

yes, Weiqi is much more complex than Chess. In WeiQi, the game is easy to learn, but is difficult to master. In Chess, the game is difficult to learn and moderate to master.
The strategies in WeiQi are much more complex than Chess. When you lose a battle in WeiQi, you can always fight another battle on another part of the board. The war is not lost. In Chess, if you lose the battle, you lose the war.

Scientists have developed computer Chess programs that can beat GrandMaster level human opponents. They have yet to come up with something to best WeiQi Grandmaster level. That gives you an idea on the complexities of WeiQi.

WeiQi is not about forming lines, it's about surrounding your opponent. You can fight several battles on one board at the same time.

Computers can't beat human WeiQi opponents because the board is so large that the number of permutations increases exponentially. The computing power required far exceeds anything that is currently available today.

[abhcbl]

I play all 3 … weiqi, chinese chess and international chess … and used to represent my school in competition. I will definitely say weiqi as the best to learn for kids …


1. the rule is simple
2. the thought process is deeper … it teach much more things than the other
3. it is much more interesting for kids because the rule is simple

try visiting the Singapore Weiqi Association (one in Middle Road and the other in Bishan). The best way for kids to enjoy and like weiqi … is for them to learn and play with kids of their own level.

Just a brief intro of weiqi, if you don’t know about the game … it comprise of 361 intersections and play with 2 color of seeds (i.e. theoretically if you think about the first 4 moves and ignore mirror image, there are theoretically about 4 billion combination … that’s why todate … we have not seen any 2 exact similar game in weiqi (not even close).

You learn math, strategy, guesing the next steps, give and take, balancing, sacrifice, a lot of computation and scenario in your game. In chess … if you can think about the next 10-20 move … you are likely to be a good player … in weiqi, that will likely be normal player. so like the others said … it is easy to learn but hard to master. However, I would say if your kids can reach the level of about 4-5K … that will be good. Also Weiqi can play with an established handicapped systems and in different size… for beginner … usually start with a 9 x 9 board.

[sleepy]

sydney:

weiqi is easier to learn.

My dd made the same comment too. She plays both weiqi and xiangqi.