2010 COPs for 2011 Sec One Intake

[phankao]

tisha:

Do you mean that the NJC COP is not the T-score of the last student admitted ? That their COP is pre-decided?
I don't think it is likely. If they pre-decide why should they bother with decimal points, anyone above 257.0 should get in.
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Then why is it that only 204 students are admitted instead of the maximum capacity of 250? Same for last year - how come only 180+ instead of last year's capacity of 200? Surely there are students who have scores below 257(point....whatever decimal points) that have put NJC as a choice too in S1 posting exercise, right?

[ycpang]

I do believe that most IP schools keep some reserved slots for thefollowing reasons:

1) for appeal cases, especially for those high scorers but have been DSAed to another schools. RI should be the biggest winner in this. I read in another thread that RI has approved 60 appealled cases and many of them are with scores above 263. If they don’t keep reserved slots, how could they find so many "free slots" overnight?

2) to maintain its high COP. With lesser space, the COP will definitely go up. This is for schools to able to continue to woo high scorers . The school will certainly look less interesting to parents and students should their COPs keep dropping every year.

As such, those who miss the COP by 1 point usually stand a good chance to get into the school should they appeal.

[jtoh]

tisha:

jtoh:

[quote=\"cheez06\"]my sister got rejected by njc with 257. :idea:

She probably missed by mere decimal points. Is she appealing?

Oh these decimals. :stupid: My collegue's daughter too seems to have missed her first choice by decimals. Her T-score was 260. First choice RGS(got rejected) got second choice NJC.[/quote]Oh dear. That's certainly a close call.

[jtoh]

ycpang:

I do believe that most IP schools keep some reserved slots for thefollowing reasons:

1) for appeal cases, especially for those high scorers but have been DSAed to another schools. RI should be the bigger winner in this. I read in another thread that RI has approved 60 appealled cases and many of them are with scores above 263. If they don't keep reserved slots, how could they find so many \"free slots\" overnight?

2) to maintain its high COP. With lesser space, the COP will definitely go up. This is for schools to able to continue to woo high scorers . The school will certainly look less interesting to parents and students should their COPs keep dropping every year.

As such, those who miss the COP by 1 point usually stand a good chance to get into the school should they appeal.

I agree with you. I'm surprised by how many successful appeal cases there are and there can't suddenly be so many vacancies appearing out of nowhere. And yes, by reserving places for appeal cases, these schools artificially inflate their COPs. I'm just surprised that there are so many reserved spots if the 40+ spots in NJC is correct.

[phankao]

jtoh:

I agree with you. I'm surprised by how many successful appeal cases there are and there can't suddenly be so many vacancies appearing out of nowhere. And yes, by reserving places for appeal cases, these schools artificially inflate their COPs. I'm just surprised that there are so many reserved spots if the 40+ spots in NJC is correct.

Yes, the 10+ \"reserved\" spots last year seems more reasonable than the 40+ this time, right?

[WeiHan]

phankao:

jtoh:

I agree with you. I'm surprised by how many successful appeal cases there are and there can't suddenly be so many vacancies appearing out of nowhere. And yes, by reserving places for appeal cases, these schools artificially inflate their COPs. I'm just surprised that there are so many reserved spots if the 40+ spots in NJC is correct.

Yes, the 10+ \"reserved\" spots last year seems more reasonable than the 40+ this time, right?

RI is an independent school and they have sufficient resource for this flexibility. But iam surprise that NJC as a government aided school also has this pliviledge.

[phankao]

WeiHan:

phankao:

[quote=\"jtoh\"]
I agree with you. I'm surprised by how many successful appeal cases there are and there can't suddenly be so many vacancies appearing out of nowhere. And yes, by reserving places for appeal cases, these schools artificially inflate their COPs. I'm just surprised that there are so many reserved spots if the 40+ spots in NJC is correct.

Yes, the 10+ \"reserved\" spots last year seems more reasonable than the 40+ this time, right?

RI is an independent school and they have sufficient resource for this flexibility. But iam surprise that NJC as a government aided school also has this pliviledge.[/quote]Although I guess it makes sense for NJC to keep the COP higher to maintain standards.

[jtoh]

phankao:

WeiHan:

[quote=\"phankao\"]
Yes, the 10+ \"reserved\" spots last year seems more reasonable than the 40+ this time, right?

RI is an independent school and they have sufficient resource for this flexibility. But iam surprise that NJC as a government aided school also has this pliviledge.

Although I guess it makes sense for NJC to keep the COP higher to maintain standards.[/quote]It certainly makes the school more attractive to the better students. But I find it quite annoying that schools keep some spots for appeal cases because it denies students who just missed the COP by decimals or 1 point from getting into the school via the S1 Posting.

[tisha]

Thankyou jtoh, phankao, WeiHan, ycpang ... for all your inputs. All these things are so complex to understand.

I still have one more burning Q. Do the other IP Schools(apart from ACSI) offer 'O' level as well?

tisha:

ManU123:

i just wonder if there is a need to have 2 COPs for ACSI. According to MOE, there is only 1 COP (max 2 if there are affiliated primary schools), but no COP for IP. Imagine the additional 8 schools that will be offering IP soon - all will have COP for IP and non-IP, it will be very confusing. :?

It is very confusing indeed! Espeacially for the first time PSLE parents like me.
Is this 245 COP for affiliated? Or even other school children can get into ACSI with T-Score of 245+? Please clarify. :?:
Is there a chance to switch to IB/IP for a student who is from the lower end of the Tscore if his sec1/sec2 results are very good?
Do the other IP schools also take in students with lower T-score than COP into the 'O' level stream? I mean do the other schools like RI/RGS/HCI... offer 'O' level as well? TIA

[WeiHan]

tisha:

Thankyou jtoh, phankao, WeiHan, ycpang ... for all your inputs. All these things are so complex to understand.

I still have one more burning Q. Do the other IP Schools(apart from ACSI) offer 'O' level as well?

tisha:

[quote=\"ManU123\"]
i just wonder if there is a need to have 2 COPs for ACSI. According to MOE, there is only 1 COP (max 2 if there are affiliated primary schools), but no COP for IP. Imagine the additional 8 schools that will be offering IP soon - all will have COP for IP and non-IP, it will be very confusing. :?

It is very confusing indeed! Espeacially for the first time PSLE parents like me.
Is this 245 COP for affiliated? Or even other school children can get into ACSI with T-Score of 245+? Please clarify. :?:
Is there a chance to switch to IB/IP for a student who is from the lower end of the Tscore if his sec1/sec2 results are very good?
Do the other IP schools also take in students with lower T-score than COP into the 'O' level stream? I mean do the other schools like RI/RGS/HCI... offer 'O' level as well? TIA

[/quote]The other first batch of Ip schools don't officially offer O level track. They are all on paper full IP schools. Although, some IP schools may offer one O level class for students who cannot cope with IP programme, there is no obligation for these schools to provide such intermediate switching track.

However, the second batch of IP schools...i.e Victoria, Cedar , Cat high etc...all will be offering IP simultaneously with O level.