Any parents of gifted children here ?

[ChiefKiasu]

ZacK:

...One thing I could never understand about our local schools' context of being gifted... To me it's so narrowly minded that as long as you do well in your academic subjects and score well in it... You are gifted. :roll: ...

Ditto. Amen. So say we all.

[ZacK]

ChiefKiasu:

ZacK:

...One thing I could never understand about our local schools' context of being gifted... To me it's so narrowly minded that as long as you do well in your academic subjects and score well in it... You are gifted. :roll: ...

Ditto. Amen. So say we all.

It's unlikely that MOE will review their position on allowing locals to enrol in International Schools... If so, I'm sure most parents in the financial position to do so would choose to take their kids out of the local school system... :roll:

Come to think of it... This may actually be a win-win situation for all if MOE does relax this ruling... Then parents would not be subject to P1 registration stress becos the demand for enrolment into local schools will drop

Personally being an output of the local education system... And especially the way the local system is geared towards... Our kids are taught to be exam smart... To score well on paper... But can we consider them to be bright and able to think out of the box to derive solutions? My take is... hardly so :!:

[wwcookie]

ZacK:

It's unlikely that MOE will review their position on allowing locals to enrol in International Schools... If so, I'm sure most parents in the financial position to do so would choose to take their kids out of the local school system... :roll:


Come to think of it... This may actually be a win-win situation for all if MOE does relax this ruling... Then parents would not be subject to P1 registration stress becos the demand for enrolment into local schools will drop

I totally agree with you there! I heard the reason MOE does not allow locals to enrol in international schools is for nationalistic purposes - the children in these schools are not required to sing the national anthem and recite the Singapore pledge.

[wwcookie]

ZacK:

One thing I could never understand about our local schools' context of being gifted... To me it's so narrowly minded that as long as you do well in your academic subjects and score well in it... You are gifted. :roll:


A kid's gift could be in so many areas or faculties that could not be ascertained or assessed by mere grades/results on the report card.

If my child is bad at academic subjects but has a gift in the arts, music or even sports... How does the current education system reconcile that? What I cannot and do not understand is the way kids are streamed into a particular education route simply based on academic results... :?

Erm.. I think MOE recognises these other non-academic gifts and is coming up with ways of developing these kids such as by setting up specialised schools like the sports school and the arts schools.

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For sports area, usually the kids are talent spotted. This usually happens when the school joins inter-school competition. Some kids with natural abilities will be contacted & will be groom outside of school context.


Out of the box thinking skill. Hmm…at A level, we have to sit for General Paper. When a topic is open for discussion, I can just hear a pin drop & nobody have any opinion on the subject discussed. We happily sit & wait for the teacher to feed us with the necessary paper, book list & read memorize from there. Drive the teacher crazy.

[ZacK]

wwcookie:

ZacK:

One thing I could never understand about our local schools' context of being gifted... To me it's so narrowly minded that as long as you do well in your academic subjects and score well in it... You are gifted. :roll:


A kid's gift could be in so many areas or faculties that could not be ascertained or assessed by mere grades/results on the report card.

If my child is bad at academic subjects but has a gift in the arts, music or even sports... How does the current education system reconcile that? What I cannot and do not understand is the way kids are streamed into a particular education route simply based on academic results... :?

Erm.. I think MOE recognises these other non-academic gifts and is coming up with ways of developing these kids such as by setting up specialised schools like the sports school and the arts schools.

These special schools are available only to those classified as \"gifted\" ... I just feel that there shd be a curriculum that is applied uniformly so that the general population of kids will benefit and not just the privileged few...

[ZacK]

EN:

Out of the box thinking skill. Hmm...at A level, we have to sit for General Paper. When a topic is open for discussion, I can just hear a pin drop & nobody have any opinion on the subject discussed. We happily sit & wait for the teacher to feed us with the necessary paper, book list & read memorize from there. Drive the teacher crazy.

I do not have any personal experience but I have heard that students are awarded marks if and only if they solve a question in a particular method... So if answers were derived using other methods. They are not awarded marks??!! Not sure how true... I'm sure there is more than 1 way to arrive at a solution ... And in everyday life, there are 101 ways to get things done.

If this is really the type of environment that our kids are subjected to... I wonder how then will they be able to think out of the box? Is there any surprise then that as adults... We tend to see situations in a 1-sided manner :roll:

[gifted]

The kids that are in the GEP not alway must be the top student of the class or top of the school when they are in the mainstream. Not my girl??


Some of the kids that I know of that was currently in the GEP dun score BAND 1 in any of their subjects when they were in the mainstream. Even their parents also wonder how their kid was being selected. :?

The GEPers are enriched with skills such public speaking, leadership camp, computer (Dreamweaver), etc.

Although I find it taxing but somehow I find it very interesting. Taxing is due to the work that are assigned to the kids are topics that are taught in secondary school or higher level and sometimes we, parents also cannot solve it. All their work are awarded based on the originality and creativity of the work produced. They are asked to create toys related to science topics they are taught. Imagine you are being shrink and write a story about visitng an animal or plant cells. They are asked to write about the characteristics of the main characters of the book 'Charlotte Web' etc. All their teachers are specially trained to cater for their needs. Isn't this something different from the mainstream?? :roll:

However, we are told that they will not score very well in their PSLE because they will only be 'trained' 3 months before the examination.

[Ling]

Hi,

This has been interesting reading for me. I used to teach in the Gifted programme so I have a couple of comments on what I have read thus far:

1) Nature of gifts vary: We do come across a pupil who is gifted in all respects i.e. in math, science, english, second/third language, music, art, drama, sports. Often, the pupils I am in contact with would excel greatly in two/three subjects (disciplines) and fair just above average on the rest. Some have no aptitude in a particular subject so they do not do as well during exams but when pitted against the mainstream pupils during common exams, they would still score or average well. Some develop their interests in these areas at some tipping point later on. The key thing is, they develop at their own pace and pursue their interests according to their needs. We should never stifle their quest for knowledge, skills or answers.

2) 10-year-old first : While they may be gifted, all the pupils undergo the angst of being 10 -year-olds first, regardless of their gift. They face the growing up anxieties of being a child of that age even if they are gifted. We must not lose sight of that. Just because at times they think like adults or respond like one, we forget that they are still children. It is important that as parents we do not neglect 'coping strategies' i.e. teaching a gifted child how to cope with his gift, the peer pressure from other gifted kids, as well as those from mainstream pupils. See Little Man Tate where Jodie Foster put up a stellar performance in that movie.

3) Value system : Without the proper parental guidance and value system, our kids can become gifted criminals too.

I was told by a parent that her gifted son had enrolled into a prestigious university overseas and had hacked into the department's computer system, changed the passwords and some assessment scores, 'for fun'. Fortunately, the Head was an understanding person and channelled her son's ability to more productive use by getting him to re-write a security programme.

The gifted programme in schools is an alternative to nurture high ability, gifted children to achieve their gifted potential. The curriculum is based largely on enrichment, expanding the mind and stretching the individual.
I used to tailor my lessons to the learning abilities of my pupils (some are more audio-visual, some more experiential) while balancing the requirements of MOE from the school (X assignments per term etc). Each class of pupil is different so there is a lot more preparation involved to pitch the learning at the right level. Too high and you lose those who are not interested in that subject matter, too low and you lose their interest.

Today, I hold fond memories of having touched their lives, many of whom are friends who hold successful jobs in both the civil service and in the private sector.

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Hi Gifted. Thanks for sharing the insight of the gifted class. Dependign on which school some does carry out some of the programs mentioned for all to enjoy. Like heavy reading, drama, public speaking, report writing etc. These activities are done during their normal English class. Might be enriching for those who does not struggle with school work. However, I dont think all school carry such activities for the mainstream students unless the students are group as high abilities on English.


Beside a fast learner, as a parent of a child selected to be in gifted program, do you notice or received comments from teachers or friends that your child is developing differently? There are quite a number of prominent characteristic listed in the gifted website, does it rang true that gifted kids amplify the characteristic mentioned.

I can imagine how taxing it is for your child & yourself. Even the mainstream papers are too difficult for parents to answer, let alone a child in the gifted program.