Nan Chiau Primary

[yummum]

Hi all,


Any advice on how you managed to enrol your child under Phase 2B? I am not a SHHK member so the only way to enrol my child would be to apply for PV but the school advised that they only select about 10 applicants out of 100+ applicants. Also, I am not sure if I stand a chance since I stay <2km from NCPS.
Any advice based on your experience would be greatly appreciated!

Would you know when NCPS will transit to single session and what time will school start then?

Thanks!

[VJA]

timtim:

Village Girl:

[quote=\"workingmom\"]Hi - can I find out how is streaming done in from Pri 2 to 3 ? How do they allocate the classes ?

workingmum, according to my girl's teacher, they would have top 3 classes for P3, the rest of the classes will be randomly mixed. Thus, if the overall school position is in top 90, they will be in the top 3 classes.

I think top 3 classes extended from P3 to P6 (6A, 6B & 6C). If you look at the NCPS Top 10 PSLE students for 2010, 9 of them from Class 6A. Looking at the PSLE outcome, it keeps me wonder if school has poured all resources into these 3 classes (cream of the crop) to the extend that other mixed-results classes are neglected. 9 out of 10 from same class...humm.[/quote]P2 is a critical yr when they will stream for P3.
It should be the top 120 as the class size increase to around 40 in P3.
I think the rest will also be distribute based on their results and not be mixed. School position will be indicated at the end of SA2 in the report book.
The school really focus on the top 3 or 2 classes only.
There are some parents not very happy with such arrangements when they know that A-C classes have this have that, but not others

[timtim]

VJA:

timtim:

[quote=\"Village Girl\"]
workingmum, according to my girl's teacher, they would have top 3 classes for P3, the rest of the classes will be randomly mixed. Thus, if the overall school position is in top 90, they will be in the top 3 classes.

I think top 3 classes extended from P3 to P6 (6A, 6B & 6C). If you look at the NCPS Top 10 PSLE students for 2010, 9 of them from Class 6A. Looking at the PSLE outcome, it keeps me wonder if school has poured all resources into these 3 classes (cream of the crop) to the extend that other mixed-results classes are neglected. 9 out of 10 from same class...humm.

P2 is a critical yr when they will stream for P3.
It should be the top 120 as the class size increase to around 40 in P3.
I think the rest will also be distribute based on their results and not be mixed. School position will be indicated at the end of SA2 in the report book.
The school really focus on the top 3 or 2 classes only.
There are some parents not very happy with such arrangements when they know that A-C classes have this have that, but not others[/quote]I am someone who feel strongly against such streaming at Primary level. It only makes some students feel good and elite, others become low self-esteem and morale. I feel that students who are good will be good no matter what friends they are with. In fact, I felt poorer students will still be able to catch up if given a chance. Myself is such an example. No teacher in my Primary school will believe I eventually graduated from university with very good results when I was always the last or 2nd last in my class. The intention of MOE/Sch is always good, but problem lies in the implementation, when focus shifted unknowingly to only those classes/students at the expense of others. Implementing such a system is not trivial.

[Pappy]

Hi, Meizi, Sysherlene, Timtim, Yumum, Bluebells and existing parents,


I am registering my son for NCPS this year.

Need your valuable advices on the following:

1. Is the school’s management (Principal and vice principal) approachable and efficient in managing the school.

(Encounter experiences of management not efficient in running the school and it is tough communicating with them)


2. Is your child loaded with too much homework that they dislike going to school?


3. Do the school looks into character and Physical development other than academic?


4. How do you find the school?


Appreciate your input and thanks for sharing : )

[yummum]

Hi timtim,

So NCPS conducts streaming at P2?

Hi Pappy,
I am also finding out more info on NCPS so I'm afraid I can't provide you any advice too

[timtim]

yummum:

Hi timtim,

So NCPS conducts streaming at P2?

No streaming at P2, it's P2's assessment results that will lead to streaming results in P3. Maybe parents with children in upper pri can provide more insights.

[timtim]

yummum:

Hi all,


Any advice on how you managed to enrol your child under Phase 2B? I am not a SHHK member so the only way to enrol my child would be to apply for PV but the school advised that they only select about 10 applicants out of 100+ applicants. Also, I am not sure if I stand a chance since I stay <2km from NCPS.
Any advice based on your experience would be greatly appreciated!

Would you know when NCPS will transit to single session and what time will school start then?

Thanks!

For NCPS, Phase 2B (for PV, SHHK, GRL), <1km>2km, no chance at all. I am a GRL, not PV, so can't share my experience.

We were told 2013 goes single session but no details yet. By then, if vacancy reduced, then past balloting results not applicable anymore.

[Village Girl]

timtim:

Village Girl:

[quote=\"workingmom\"]Hi - can I find out how is streaming done in from Pri 2 to 3 ? How do they allocate the classes ?

workingmum, according to my girl's teacher, they would have top 3 classes for P3, the rest of the classes will be randomly mixed. Thus, if the overall school position is in top 90, they will be in the top 3 classes.

I think top 3 classes extended from P3 to P6 (6A, 6B & 6C). If you look at the NCPS Top 10 PSLE students for 2010, 9 of them from Class 6A. Looking at the PSLE outcome, it keeps me wonder if school has poured all resources into these 3 classes (cream of the crop) to the extend that other mixed-results classes are neglected. 9 out of 10 from same class...humm.[/quote]Timtim, where are we able to view the past PSLE outcome?

[timtim]

Village Girl:

timtim:

[quote=\"Village Girl\"]
workingmum, according to my girl's teacher, they would have top 3 classes for P3, the rest of the classes will be randomly mixed. Thus, if the overall school position is in top 90, they will be in the top 3 classes.

I think top 3 classes extended from P3 to P6 (6A, 6B & 6C). If you look at the NCPS Top 10 PSLE students for 2010, 9 of them from Class 6A. Looking at the PSLE outcome, it keeps me wonder if school has poured all resources into these 3 classes (cream of the crop) to the extend that other mixed-results classes are neglected. 9 out of 10 from same class...humm.

Timtim, where are we able to view the past PSLE outcome?[/quote]It's not published on the web. The result was posted on noticeboards all over in school, that's when I noticed.

[BlueBells]

I think the real test for grouping pupils into foundation or standard will now come only in P4.


With the new curriculum and all the bite-size accessments that will be included into the SA1 & SA2 for P2s, the allocation of pupils based on results will not be truely reflective of the pupils’ academic performances anymore.

And even at P5, the class allocation might also be skewed because, for eg. Pupil A scores all high band 1 and is recommended to take higher chinese (a class can have a mix of pupils taking higher chinese and standard chinese), and Pupil B is not recommended for higher chinese. Now if Pupil B’s parents opt for him to take HCL, he will be in a different class from Pupil A. If Pupil C scores all Band 1 and does not take HCL, Pupil C might be in a mix class with Pupil A.

So with the current system, there is no more clear indicator which is the best class. Traditionally, yes, the top class might be from A - C, but from this year onwards, I find it hard to conclude.

Also, good teachers may not be in teaching the best class. And again, it also depends on your definition of good teachers. Good teachers = teachers who can drill and derive results? Or good teachers = teachers that can make a positive difference in your child’s learning attittudes? Or good teachers = teachers who can engage and motivate your child?

My preference for good teachers are those who can make a postive difference in my child’s learning attitude. Does my child need to be in the top class? Not necessary for me.

Just my personal opinions.