All About Full-Time Maids
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mummymaid:
I think a lot of those who never experienced problems before will think that we are being petty/stingy etc. Sorry, but please, if one is so generous, go donate to charity.hquek:
Perhaps you may like to inform your relatives in future on the quiet NOT to give your maid angbao so as to make it easy to detect. For now, you can only bite the 'bittergourd' becos no proof.
After an unhappy experience with ex-maid last yr, this CNY, thot be clever by telling my siblings dont give maid angbao. End up, maid stayed home while we go baiNian cos hubby doesn't want to inform his side.
My side, my sis told me she has the right to give, said I'm a super stingy and petty employer. :?
She never employed maid b4, kept wanting to show-off/act like she super nice person, created unnecessary problems so indirectly make my life miserable ... :x
Anyway, another way is to ensure that our kids give the angpow directly to mummy for safekeeping and don't just leave it lying around or in their rooms - or put inside a bag that they carry around. -
hquek:
I think a lot of those who never experienced problems before will think that we are being petty/stingy etc. Sorry, but please, if one is so generous, go donate to charity.mummymaid:
[quote=\"hquek\"] Perhaps you may like to inform your relatives in future on the quiet NOT to give your maid angbao so as to make it easy to detect. For now, you can only bite the 'bittergourd' becos no proof.
After an unhappy experience with ex-maid last yr, this CNY, thot be clever by telling my siblings dont give maid angbao. End up, maid stayed home while we go baiNian cos hubby doesn't want to inform his side.
My side, my sis told me she has the right to give, said I'm a super stingy and petty employer. :?
She never employed maid b4, kept wanting to show-off/act like she super nice person, created unnecessary problems so indirectly make my life miserable ... :x
Anyway, another way is to ensure that our kids give the angpow directly to mummy for safekeeping and don't just leave it lying around or in their rooms - or put inside a bag that they carry around.[/quote]Wat i did was, i told all my 3 kids, aged 6, 4, 2 tat when they receive any red packets, passed it to me immediately.. n it worked almost quite well.. and at times if the youngest did not pass it to me.. the 2 older ones will try to take it from her or inform me about it..
Though a few times i saw maid trying to keep it in her bag.. so i make sure if i receive 2 of the same red pkts frm my older ones, the pkts in the youngest bag should b the same as well..
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celtricia:
Lucky you have 2 older ones to look out. These pp are :siao: - there are 3 kids, why would they think it's undetectable if one kid has lesser ab (even from designs).
Wat i did was, i told all my 3 kids, aged 6, 4, 2 tat when they receive any red packets, passed it to me immediately.. n it worked almost quite well.. and at times if the youngest did not pass it to me.. the 2 older ones will try to take it from her or inform me about it.. Though a few times i saw maid trying to keep it in her bag.. so i make sure if i receive 2 of the same red pkts frm my older ones, the pkts in the youngest bag should b the same as well..
Has/would any employer tell the maid upfront that she will tally the angpaos? Just so they can get rid of the notion they can pocket some? -
hquek:
Opps! i tink i may have misdirect some of u.. sorry sorry.. heh
Lucky you have 2 older ones to look out. These pp are :siao: - there are 3 kids, why would they think it's undetectable if one kid has lesser ab (even from designs).celtricia:
Wat i did was, i told all my 3 kids, aged 6, 4, 2 tat when they receive any red packets, passed it to me immediately.. n it worked almost quite well.. and at times if the youngest did not pass it to me.. the 2 older ones will try to take it from her or inform me about it.. Though a few times i saw maid trying to keep it in her bag.. so i make sure if i receive 2 of the same red pkts frm my older ones, the pkts in the youngest bag should b the same as well..
Has/would any employer tell the maid upfront that she will tally the angpaos? Just so they can get rid of the notion they can pocket some?
when i mentioned 'maid trying to keep in her bag' i meant my youngest girl's bag.. and i did told maid tat all the red pkts she received she should pass it to me at the end of the day when we get home..
Maid jus arrived in sg on 31st Jan and this is her first time in sg.. so i tink she hasnt have the courage yet to pocket my kids red pkts.. *cross fingers* tat it will remain this way.. -
celtricia:
If she can start pocketing angpow so fast then she's big trouble.
Opps! i tink i may have misdirect some of u.. sorry sorry.. heh
when i mentioned 'maid trying to keep in her bag' i meant my youngest girl's bag.. and i did told maid tat all the red pkts she received she should pass it to me at the end of the day when we get home..
Maid jus arrived in sg on 31st Jan and this is her first time in sg.. so i tink she hasnt have the courage yet to pocket my kids red pkts.. *cross fingers* tat it will remain this way..
Sorry to have misunderstood. :oops: -
hquek:
Yes i agree.. but she din.. tat's the relieve thing for now.. juz haf to monitor..
If she can start pocketing angpow so fast then she's big trouble.
Sorry to have misunderstood. :oops:
No nid to apologise.. i was the one who did not indicate clearly.. i should be sorry..
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An alarming number of foreign maids ran away from their employers' homes in 2010 alone.
A Straits Times check with embassies and foreign workers showed that at least 4,000 had run away from their employers' homes last year.
The most common complaints heard were homesickness, being overworked, or bosses who scolded them as well as being unpaid for their work. The majority had worked in Singapore for less than six months and were yet to receive a regular salary since they had to repay loans of up to 11 months' salary to employers.
Embassy officials say many of the women's complaints cannot be proven and some are even found to be false. But it is rare for the women to return to their employers. About 70 per cent are repatriated and the rest move to new employers.
4000 is a lot leh - esp since it involves mostly new maids. I would think this shows that maids are more aware of their rights and don't need the money - run away can go home faster? Those who truly need to support their families would have gritted their teeth (unless conditions are really bad).
Should they look into the requirement where SG employers pay up on behalf of the maid? And the maid pay that amount themselves? Since we are talking about HK and Taiwan, I understand that employers don't bear their loans if any to go there. I'm sure their local agents are more effective to make sure the maids pay whatever is due to them (agent) for placement fees than a hapless employer who dunno where the village is situated (I don't).
Anyway, so far the 3 maids I got only get salaries deducted for 8 months - I wonder which bloodsucker agent (this is harsh but that's how I feel) get 11 months. FYI, this current myanmar maid: she is getting cash $60 and her salary deduction is about 8 months. -
hquek:
Thanks so much to all for the advice.Agree, better be more careful as to the valuables and monies in the house. If she really bought a hp, the next question is how she's going to finance the usage.
Act blur in front of her and pretend dunno. No point going through her belongings as she may have passed it to a friend.
I'm actually wary of letting maids go down to wash the car by themselves becos I see a lot chit chatting away with friends. That is also a good time to pass things around. So either we wash the car ourselves; or we'll go down with her together.
Yes, we should be more careful with valuables and money with this maid, as with my previous Filipina maid (who was kept her own salary). With the \"no cash\" policy, I think we have been more relaxed and less wary. However, it is true that they can pass the money and stuff to their friends. My maid is able to handle the work and so far, I have very little complaints. The issue is she has a sweet mouth and is quick to come up with excuses...also I strongly suspect she can be defiant and stubborn... so don't want to spoil the current cordial relationship.
I just told my son, in my maid's presence, that I always know when he is lying even though I don't always kick up a fuss over it. Hope she gets the hint. -
Hi,
I also did that, taking the chance of discipline my child infront of my maid, telling them not to tell lie and I know them inside out and I can say that my six sense was very accurate and they cant escape my eye.
I knew on some occasion my maid tell lies in order to defence herself, maybe scare I will scold her or what. When she was here in the beginning, she tends to test my forgetfulness and insists she did not do this or that and somehow I did not pursue any further but after a few occasion, I dont let her pull her trick anymore and just told her off straight away without asking if she is the one who did it and she just keep quiet after that cos certain thing, you just kind of think who else but she. Of course, I did not frame her as I am very sure of every little details of my own house, so she wont have anymore excuses. Sofar, she hardly did that anymore.
After 2 years, we had slowly build up our rapport between us and even though I still cant trust her 100% but I believe its all about mutual respect. She need the money to support her family and I need her to take care of my chores and taking care of kids. Just treat her well, show concern and ask abt her family at home also, and this will let her feel happy and appreciated and she will ultimately show respect to us and do their work deligently.
Of course not all maids are the same and it still boils down to their attitudes and reasons wanting to come here and work. -
hquek:
Don't understand why maids can have HOME, TWC2, AEAS and MOM to protect them. We have nobody to turn to! :x Shouldn't an organisation or Unit be set up to help employers bullied by these so-called inferior & harmless human beings but were actually wolves in disguise?An alarming number of foreign maids ran away from their employers' homes in 2010 alone.
A Straits Times check with embassies and foreign workers showed that at least 4,000 had run away from their employers' homes last year.
The most common complaints heard were homesickness, being overworked, or bosses who scolded them as well as being unpaid for their work. The majority had worked in Singapore for less than six months and were yet to receive a regular salary since they had to repay loans of up to 11 months' salary to employers.
Embassy officials say many of the women's complaints cannot be proven and some are even found to be false. But it is rare for the women to return to their employers. About 70 per cent are repatriated and the rest move to new employers.
4000 is a lot leh - esp since it involves mostly new maids. I would think this shows that maids are more aware of their rights and don't need the money - run away can go home faster? Those who truly need to support their families would have gritted their teeth (unless conditions are really bad).
Should they look into the requirement where SG employers pay up on behalf of the maid? And the maid pay that amount themselves? Since we are talking about HK and Taiwan, I understand that employers don't bear their loans if any to go there. I'm sure their local agents are more effective to make sure the maids pay whatever is due to them (agent) for placement fees than a hapless employer who dunno where the village is situated (I don't).
Anyway, so far the 3 maids I got only get salaries deducted for 8 months - I wonder which bloodsucker agent (this is harsh but that's how I feel) get 11 months. FYI, this current myanmar maid: she is getting cash $60 and her salary deduction is about 8 months.
Current contract set by AEAS and CASE have lots of loop holes that put Employers at risk. Set up a Special Unit to handle problems araised due to shortchanged by agencies or FDWs unable to perform according to the jobscope (outlined in details to agent before hiring). This Unit acts on our behalf, helps busy employers run errands, settle issues with maid agencies, attend interviews at the timing & convenience of MOM or AEAS and CASE....clear all kinds of hassle. Not all Employers are able to take Leave whenever there's a dispute/meeting required - often very dragging and takes up lots of time and energy.
This Unit is basically setup to help Employers (standup for them), especially when FDW runs away and leave behind a huge unpaid loan http://www.singaporemotherhood.com/forumboard/messages/5/2309357.html?1290733667, http://www.singaporemotherhood.com/forumboard/messages/5/4692256.html?1290579099
Act on our behalf by processing and dealing w/Agencies who Did NOT exercise due diligence. Bio data provided are not 100% accurate. Agency should exercise due diligence (check with source countries, phone interview them (see face to face online) before employers speak (interview online or pick them up) . Agency shouldn't push out unsuitable, especially unsound maid. It is alright for agency to counsel maid but it is not ethical to push unsuitable maid to employers - we paid for agency fee, not getting any free service.
Eg, Employer wanted somebody can cook but agency gave somebody who mainly watches how to cook, helps to prepare but hasn't cook independantly. Or maid reaches Spore unable to accept the fact of a heavy 7-9 mths loan, claimed homesick or displayed mental and adjustability issue, should be settle down at agency (transition) and not be picked up by employers. It is not the employers job to counsel maid nor babysit a spolit 'princess'. Employers saw bio indicated University grads but only upon maid's arrival, Employer realised FDW didn't complete the course so she's not a U-grad.
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