"branded" sch vs neighbourhood sch

[Augmum]

Chenonceau:

The teachers aren't necessarily better though. But the curriculum is strong. There are one or 2 very ambitious ones who see the girls as a passport to their own promotions... and there was one who taught NOTHING the whole year, but no one knew because the girls in that class were really very good in that subject already. No need to teach.

my observation is that not necessarily ALL Good results of pupils come from the credit of Good teachers.
pupils gain external help from tuition/enrichment.

[Chenonceau]

sleepy:

My dd in a somewhat branded school. School is totally switched off le. 1 whole term I only see 1 piece of Science worksheet :!:


And school's motto is no streaming & no supplementary classes regardless of results, definitely following MOE's 'teach less' to the core

So parents must be prepared to 'pay more' to send kids to external enrichments or 'nag more' to get kids to do assessment books at home

Sounds like my girl's branded primary school. Wonder if same school. Haha!

[Chenonceau]

Augmum:

Chenonceau:

The teachers aren't necessarily better though. But the curriculum is strong. There are one or 2 very ambitious ones who see the girls as a passport to their own promotions... and there was one who taught NOTHING the whole year, but no one knew because the girls in that class were really very good in that subject already. No need to teach.

my observation is that not necessarily ALL Good results of pupils come from the credit of Good teachers.
pupils gain external help from tuition/enrichment.

Yah lor...

[Funz]

My views for secondary school. If my kids results allow them to go to a so called ‘branded’ school, I will definitely send them there. Kids who can make it to those schools are supposedly of a certain calibre so the influence from their peers in their academic pursuit will be more positive (depending on how you see it).


When I look at a school, academic position will weigh in first before all else. Character influence, elitism or gangsterism, yes, peers do play a part but I believe the stronger influence will always be home and upbringing.

[Augmum]

Chenonceau:

Augmum:

[quote=\"Chenonceau\"]
The teachers aren't necessarily better though. But the curriculum is strong. There are one or 2 very ambitious ones who see the girls as a passport to their own promotions... and there was one who taught NOTHING the whole year, but no one knew because the girls in that class were really very good in that subject already. No need to teach.

my observation is that not necessarily ALL Good results of pupils come from the credit of Good teachers.
pupils gain external help from tuition/enrichment.

Yah lor...[/quote] :hi5:
i remembered when my gal was in primary school, (she was in one of the best class)
during one of the parent-teacher meetings, her FT told me
\"This class no need me to teach wan, all of them already know the topics well b4 i start\".
and the fact is that \"the most lazy teacher\" was assigned to the BEST class...... :lol:

[jtoh]

Augmum:

Chenonceau:

[quote=\"Augmum\"]
my observation is that not necessarily ALL Good results of pupils come from the credit of Good teachers.
pupils gain external help from tuition/enrichment.

Yah lor...

:hi5:
i remembered when my gal was in primary school, (she was in one of the best class)
during one of the parent-teacher meetings, her FT told me
\"This class no need me to teach wan, all of them already know the topics well b4 i start\".
and the fact is that \"the most lazy teacher\" was assigned to the BEST class...... :lol: [/quote]The problem is sometimes the kids know the topics beforehand because they were taught it in tuition centres. So the teacher assumes everyone knows and doesn't teach. And the poor kids who don't have tuition struggle to cope on their own when the teacher should have been teaching.

[Chenonceau]

jtoh:

The problem is sometimes the kids know the topics beforehand because they were taught it in tuition centres. So the teacher assumes everyone knows and doesn't teach. And the poor kids who don't have tuition struggle to cope on their own when the teacher should have been teaching.

:goodpost:

[SAHM_TAN]

jtoh:

The problem is sometimes the kids know the topics beforehand because they were taught it in tuition centres. So the teacher assumes everyone knows and doesn't teach. And the poor kids who don't have tuition struggle to cope on their own when the teacher should have been teaching.

Although it's no excuse for a teacher not to teach, but did we create this situation? My friend was in the branded school 30yrs ago, then tuition was not common, she recalled having lots of interesting lessons. But now the same branded school has students (past and present) saying the teachers do not teach.

[jtoh]

SAHM_TAN:

jtoh:

The problem is sometimes the kids know the topics beforehand because they were taught it in tuition centres. So the teacher assumes everyone knows and doesn't teach. And the poor kids who don't have tuition struggle to cope on their own when the teacher should have been teaching.

Although it's no excuse for a teacher not to teach, but did we create this situation? My friend was in the branded school 30yrs ago, then tuition was not common, she recalled having lots of interesting lessons. But now the same branded school has students (past and present) saying the teachers do not teach.

That's the problem when we have kiasu parents and kids. It's an upward cycle and kids who do not understand the lesson because the teacher didn't teach end up asking the parents for tuition.

[jtoh]

insider:

My son is pleased with his O level results obtained in his neighbourhood sec school.


Tonight over the dinner, he told me he will buy chocolate as gifts for his 'selected' teachers from Sec 1 to Sec 4, to thank them for keep encouraging him (despite he quite 'naughty' kind in school).

He enjoyed himself thoroughly in his sec school life - great friends, sports and society, and quite a group of caring teachers (of course some bad ones too but those bad ones he said just yawn and forget about it).

He definitely has more favourable memories as compared to his sister's 'elite' secondary school life with more snob friends and teachers...

That's great. I have teacher friends who refuse to be posted to the branded schools because they feel that neighbourhood kids deserve good teachers more.