"branded" sch vs neighbourhood sch

[Chenonceau]

KSP:

Chenonceau:

My cousin switched his daughter from a no brand school to a branded school in P2 (AFTER examining fundamentals). He got her into RGPS, no less. Best of luck!!

How is she doing now? My daughter is in the same school too and she is doing fine.

She loves it!! My cousin is also happy because there are many opportunities for development. From what I hear RGPS has strong fundamentals. Congrats that your daughter is in there!! :rahrah:

[KSP]

Chenonceau:

KSP:

[quote=\"Chenonceau\"] My cousin switched his daughter from a no brand school to a branded school in P2 (AFTER examining fundamentals). He got her into RGPS, no less. Best of luck!!

How is she doing now? My daughter is in the same school too and she is doing fine.

She loves it!! My cousin is also happy because there are many opportunities for development. From what I hear RGPS has strong fundamentals. Congrats that your daughter is in there!! :rahrah:[/quote]Yes, I can see most students there love to go to school. This is the most fundamental - make the child loves her school. I don't know how the school did it. But they have done an excellent job!!! :celebrate:

[jtoh]

Chenonceau:

KSP:

[quote=\"janet_lee88\"]
Yup, if this Phase 2A system doesn't change, then our grandchildren will get to enjoy the privilege of extending the 'legacy' of going to the schools their daddy and mummy once attended.

Yes. the message I'm trying to put across if one can put the child in an elite school should go for it. I mean this is a no lose situation, why not? Or the parent can do PV to enhance the chances. There is no point buying a multi-million house just to let the child get into the school unless the parents can afford it. No point getting youselves in heavy debt. Property can go up and can come down too. There is no gaurentee that the child will be an elite after 6yrs there. Moreover they will have their own friends, family and thinking when they grown up. I'm not saying we should not care for their education. But do it within our limits.

It isn't a no-lose.

You lose your kids. You lose one generation. You put them there thinking they will be well-educated but they aren't. You maintain the chance to put your grandchildren in a brand name... It's only a name. I would rather have successful kids in neighbourhood schools that are on the ball than stick my kids into a underperforming brand name school and compromise their chances of getting into RI/RGS/NYGH/HCI.

What parents found in the year my daughter and her friends took her PSLE is that the school is not as loyal as it makes itself out to be. Girls who were desperate to stay in the school were told to leave... and many of these girls were bright. I know a few very smart ones. I trusted the school, and they did such bad job with The Daughter and her friends, and when it came to PSLE, the school chopped away 2 out of 7 classes so that the cut-off at secondary level still looked good.

A good analogy is that the present value of money is not the same as the future value of money. How many \"brand-name\" schools from 20 years ago are still reputable today? How many not so good schools are coming up fast?

Our children are educated TODAY, by the quality of the teachers TODAY. If it isn't happening TODAY, you lose your kids. It isn't a no-lose. You lose your kids. And for what? For a name? For a chance that may never happen in the future? Maybe in 10 years time, the affiliations will be cut... Too many girls in my daughter's cohort are today in poly. Those who make it (and there are too few given the fame of the name) had teams of Tutors. They didn't have to go to school.

My daughter was scoring in the bottom 25% of her year and I quit full-time work to coach her. In 6 months, she went to the top. If the school were doing its job, how do you explain the fact that she was underperforming?

You trust a brand... hire tutors to support the brand... is it worth it? My advice is still to examine school fundamentals... whichever the school may be.[/quote]Hi Chenonceau,

I always enjoying reading your posts because you make sense. Was wondering, why were the smart girls chopped from the school? Did they underperform and were in bottom two classes of the cohort?

[jtoh]

DesertWind:

Chenonceau:

What parents found in the year my daughter and her friends took her PSLE is that the school is not as loyal as it makes itself out to be. Girls who were desperate to stay in the school were told to leave... and many of these girls were bright. I know a few very smart ones. I trusted the school, and they did such bad job with The Daughter and her friends, and when it came to PSLE, the school chopped away 2 out of 7 classes so that the cut-off at secondary level still looked good.

This is horrifying! :!:

But that's what's being practised at several schools. The easiest way to make your COP look good is to chop off the bottom classes of your affiliated primary school and take in the better students from outside. Why do you think schools have been raising their COP from 200 to 210 to 220 and so on. You lose about 1 class of bottom students each time but get students from outside coming in at >250.

[Chenonceau]

jtoh:

Hi Chenonceau,


I always enjoying reading your posts because you make sense. Was wondering, why were the smart girls chopped from the school? Did they underperform and were in bottom two classes of the cohort?

They were smart but did badly. Same as in my daughter's case. Too much time spent gossiping and bitching. I was amazed that little girls could be so bitchy! Idle minds are the devil's playground. When The Daughter went to secondary school, the content of her phone SMS were very different. More healthy and less political. Her secondary school provided enough stimulation to occupy idle minds.

[DesertWind]

jtoh:

But that's what's being practised at several schools. The easiest way to make your COP look good is to chop off the bottom classes of your affiliated primary school and take in the better students from outside. Why do you think schools have been raising their COP from 200 to 210 to 220 and so on. You lose about 1 class of bottom students each time but get students from outside coming in at >250.

Hi Chenoceau,

But did I interpret correctly what you were saying was the girls were told to CHANGE SCHOOL just before PSLE at Primary 5 or 6?

This is different from what jtoh said to raise COP up. If the girls never get into the school in the first place, there would be no issues. I think no kids should be forced to change primary school mid-way although I think nowadays such is being done.

For eg, I have heard of principal from a \"better\" neighbourhood school telling parents to transfer their kids not performing very well at P3 out to a new neighbourhood school.

Can faint since I never heard of such a thing during my time.

To me it is a horrifying thought to be told to change primary school halfway because I believe in stability and completing the number of years in the same school.
:idea:

[Chenonceau]

DesertWind:

jtoh:

But that's what's being practised at several schools. The easiest way to make your COP look good is to chop off the bottom classes of your affiliated primary school and take in the better students from outside. Why do you think schools have been raising their COP from 200 to 210 to 220 and so on. You lose about 1 class of bottom students each time but get students from outside coming in at >250.

Hi Chenoceau,

But did I interpret correctly what you were saying was the girls were told to CHANGE SCHOOL just before PSLE at Primary 5 or 6?

This is different from what jtoh said to raise COP up. If the girls never get into the school in the first place, there would be no issues. I think no kids should be forced to change primary school mid-way although I think nowadays such is being done.

For eg, I have heard of principal from a \"better\" neighbourhood school telling parents to transfer their kids not performing very well at P3 out to a new neighbourhood school.

Can faint since I never heard of such a thing during my time.

To me it is a horrifying thought to be told to change primary school halfway because I believe in stability and completing the number of years in the same school.
:idea:

No lah... From what I know they chopped them off after PSLE results were out. Sorry if I wasn't clear. It's still terrible to lose 2 of 7 classes though. It is an indictment of your own teaching quality, especially when the kids are scions of succesful families with intelligent parents.

[kiasu2011]

[Change school. :idea: Look at other schools' fundamentals and change. My cousin switched his daughter from a no brand school to a branded school in P2 (AFTER examining fundamentals). He got her into RGPS, no less. Best of luck!! :D[/quote]


too late already :lol: he already left the school. I did try to change after SA1 exam , bring his outstanding result to another school. they reject us , say no vacancy, dun even bother to entertain me after seeing the result . no choice ds was stuck in tat school for the next 6yrs. fortunately in the last 3 years, he got in the \"previlege\" class , did well in his psle n he is now in one of the top IP boys school.

[Chenonceau]

kiasu2011


:congrats: :rahrah: :congrats: :rahrah:

I hope mine in neighbourhood school also will follow in your son's footsteps!!

[jtoh]

Chenonceau:

jtoh:

Hi Chenonceau,


I always enjoying reading your posts because you make sense. Was wondering, why were the smart girls chopped from the school? Did they underperform and were in bottom two classes of the cohort?

They were smart but did badly. Same as in my daughter's case. Too much time spent gossiping and bitching. I was amazed that little girls could be so bitchy! Idle minds are the devil's playground. When The Daughter went to secondary school, the content of her phone SMS were very different. More healthy and less political. Her secondary school provided enough stimulation to occupy idle minds.

So true.