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      FrekiWang
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      zsqchx:
      hi, could you help me to solve this question. Thanks


      There is a big migic fruit tree in a garden. It bears fruits at a constant rate every day. Man will pick the fruits and sell. Animals will pluck and eat the fruits. 25 men can pick all the fruits in 15 days and 66 animals can eat all the fruits in 10 days. If 1 man can pick twice the number of fruits as 1 animal, find the number of days it take for 10 men to pick and 10 animals to eat all the fruits together?
      the question is equivalent to:
      constant rate of growth
      25men can pick in 15days
      33men can pick in 10days
      and you are asked to find how many days will it take if there are 15men picking.

      25x15=375 men day, which is equivalent to the original amount + the growth in 15 days.

      33x10=330 menday, which is equivalent to the original amount+ the growth in 10 days.

      375-330=45 menday, which is then equivalent to the growth in 5 days.

      45/5=9 men, which means the rate of growth is equivalent to the amount picked by 9 men per day.

      The original amount on the tree is euivalent to
      375 - 9 x 15 = 240 (or 330 - 9 x 10 =240) menday

      now there are 15 men picking, the growth rate is 9 men, that means 15 - 9=6 men is deducted from the original amount per day.

      So, it will take 240/6=40days - answer

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        zsqchx
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        Much appreciate your time and help!

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          Steven_Phua
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          Hi, please kindly help me for this:


          Given that a and b are both positive integers, prove that (a-b)^2 is divisible by (4ab-1) only if a=b

          (a-b)^2 here means the square of (a-b)

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            FrekiWang
            last edited by

            Hi, please kindly help me for this:


            Given that a and b are both positive integers, prove that (a-b)^2 is divisible by (4ab-1) only if a=b

            (a-b)^2 here means the square of (a-b)


            Hi, sorry for the late reply, was quite busy in the afternoon.

            Here is my solution:

            Proof:

            Suppose there are some solutions where a<>b, since the expressions are symmetrical of a and b, we can assume a>b.

            Let (a0,b0) be the solution pair which makes a0+b0 the least.

            Let (a-b)^2/(4ab-1)=k for this pair, where k is some positive interger, move the denominator to the RHS, expand the brackets and make every in the form of a quadratic equation in a, we have,
            a^2 - (2b+4bk)a + (b^2+k) = 0, there are two roots, one of them is a0, the other root a1 is (2b0 + 4b0k -a0) (sum of roots). Obviously a1 is also a positive integer as their product b^2+k is positive

            Since (a0,b0) is the solution pair which minimizes a+b, a0+b0<=a1+b0
            i.e. a0<=a1
            The product of roots = b0^2+k=a0a1>=a0^2.
            therefore k>=a0^2-b0^2
            i.e. (a0-b0)^2/(4a0b0-1)=k>=(a0+b0)(a0-b0)
            Multiplying both sides by the positive (4a0b0-1), we have
            (a0-b0)^2>=(a0+b0)(a0-b0)(4a0b0-1)
            since a0>b0, dividing both sides by the positive (a0-b0), we have
            (a0-b0)>(a0+b0)(4a0b0-1)

            Since a0>b0>=1,
            thus
            0<a0-b0<a0+b0
            0<1<4a0b0-1
            the product (a0-b0)*1<(a0+b0)(4a0b0-1) which leads to a contradiction to the conclusion above. Hence, there is no solution pair for a>b, similar neither there is for a<b, so the only possible pairs occur when a=b

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              SKT
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              Let S = {1,2,…,4022}. Let T be the subset of S such that no number in T is divisible by another. What is the maximum size of T, i.e. the maximum number of elements that can be in T?


              TIA

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                FrekiWang
                last edited by

                SKT:
                Let S = {1,2,...,4022}. Let T be the subset of S such that no number in T is divisible by another. What is the maximum size of T, i.e. the maximum number of elements that can be in T?

                TIA
                The answer is 2011, i.e. half of 4022.

                A specific example can be T={2012,2013,2014,....,4022} which obviously satisfies the condition.

                Now let's prove the maximum size cannot exceed 2011.

                Define 2011 subsets of T as follows:

                A1={1, 1x2, 1x2x2, 1x2x2x2 ,...., 1x2^11}
                (1x2^11=2048, 1x2^12=4096>4022)

                A3={3, 3x2, 3x2x2, ...., 3x2^10}

                A5={5, 5x2, 5x2x2, ...., 5x2^9}

                A7={7, 7x2, 7x2x2, ...., 7x2^9}
                ....
                A2009={2009, 2009x2}

                A2011={2011, 2011x2}

                A2013={2013}

                A2015={2015}
                ....
                A4019={4019}

                A4021={4021}

                A little explaination here for those who cannot see the pattern,
                Subset A(2k-1) (k=1,2...2012) contains all numbers that are equal to (2k-1) multiply by powers of 2 and do not exceed 4022. There are 2011 such subsets in total.

                Suppose the maximum size of the subset T exceeds 2011 (i.e. at least 2012) and all elements belong to at least one of the 2011 subsets mentioned above, then according to 'pigeonhole principle', at least 2 or more elements must belong to one of the subsets.

                For these 2 elements, the greater number is always divisible by the smaller one, thus it is not possible for a subset S to have a size that exceeds 2011.

                PS: the problem can be extended to:

                Let S = {1,2,...,2n}. Let T be the subset of S such that no number in T is divisible by another. What is the maximum size of T, i.e. the maximum number of elements that can be in T?

                and the answer is n, you can show n+1 is not possible using a similar approach, in fact this is one classical application of 'pigeonhole principle'

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                  megans113
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                  Please help me solve this...

                  Refer to picture for problem....
                  http://postimage.org/image/49en7e90/

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                    francbat
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                    connect the vertex at the top to the intersection of the 2 cevians.

                    let y be the unknown area to the left, x to the right. using areas we have
                    x/(8+y) = 1/2 and y/(x+5) = 4/5. solving yields x=10, y =12, so your area is 22.

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                      FrekiWang
                      last edited by

                      megans113:
                      Please help me solve this...

                      Refer to picture for problem....
                      http://postimage.org/image/49en7e90/
                      From what I observe on your paper, you already have the sufficient knowledge to solve the problem, so I will make my solution a simplified version because I think you can understand it.

                      Join the top vertice to the point of intersection, it divides the region into two, let the area of the left one be A, the other one be B.

                      For the working you have written on that piece, I think you already understand the significance of the ratio 1:2 and 5:6.

                      Now look at the triangles above the two lines, we have
                      (8+A):B=2:1 and (5+B):A=5:4

                      Cross-multiply and simplify, we have 2 equations in A and B:
                      2B-A=8
                      5A-4B=20
                      Solve them, you get A=12, B=10

                      So the unknown area = 22 arces

                      Hopefully this helps[/img]

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                        abhcbl
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                        I was trying to do a quick check on my son who is now in K1 … got him to try out the MO for Junior … and was surprise that he could do about 8 qns in test 1. He sort of good in math and science but his language skill were not good enough for him to really learn by himself.


                        Also I created a simple game for him to learn how to solve basic simultaneous equation, and he learn that in 1 day … he can now solve qns like "there are 15 more apples than oranges, and altogether there are 67 apples and oranges", and he had also complete the level 1 of Fan’s Math Processing. I look at most the math books available in popular, but they all look very dry (even I won’t enjoy them when I was young). Wondering anyone know of any good games/toys or things that could help a child to learn math in a much more fun way.

                        I hope to let him learn in a fun way … more about multiplication/division/fraction and time/speed/distant concept.

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