All About Full-Time Maids

[gumiho]

SCTAN:

Hi gumiho,


I remembered i withhold a sum of S$500. I explained to her that my concern would be if in any event that you do not return for good, the deposit is meant to ensure you will be back.

Hope that will help you in explaining to your maid.

Thanks for your advise.

However, I had explained our concern but she is too stubborn to listen.

Haiz... I find it so hard to deal with filipino maid. They are giving me this impression that we are out to cheat them.

[bzmum22]

[quote=\"gumiho

Haiz... I find it so hard to deal with filipino maid. They are giving me this impression that we are out to cheat them. [/quote]

It is their \"victimised\" mentality at work lor.

This maid of yours is too calculative.
You may have problems managing her even if she really returns from her home leave 'cos she already have you under her thumb (Plse pardon my frankness.)
You should seriously think abt the change.
Maid Loan can use post-dated cheques which will spread out your cost outlay. Anyway, you will also need to use the same amt (if not more) for your current maid's salary if she returns.

If you really dun wan to change, then you may have to just take the risk to let her take back all the money and hope for the best lor.
Btw, are you so sure that she wans to renew the contract with you? Is there a hidden agenda to all these \"stubborn-ness\" and \"unreasonableness\" and \"counting every cents with employer\"?
Maybe, you wan to ponder over this.

[jtoh]

If a Filipino maid goes on home leave, she’ll need to get paperwork done at the embassy right? One of which is a contract which states that her salary must be minimum USD400 and one day off every week. So if a maid goes on home leave, we have to up her salary to USD400? Agencies say that you can tell the maid that we will not follow the contract. But the maid can always bring the contract to the embassy for enforcement?


What are your experiences and views on this?

[gumiho]

[quote]It is their \"victimised\" mentality at work lor.


This maid of yours is too calculative.
You may have problems managing her even if she really returns from her home leave 'cos she already have you under her thumb (Plse pardon my frankness.)
You should seriously think abt the change.
Maid Loan can use post-dated cheques which will spread out your cost outlay. Anyway, you will also need to use the same amt (if not more) for your current maid's salary if she returns.

If you really dun wan to change, then you may have to just take the risk to let her take back all the money and hope for the best lor.
Btw, are you so sure that she wans to renew the contract with you? Is there a hidden agenda to all these \"stubborn-ness\" and \"unreasonableness\" and \"counting every cents with employer\"?
Maybe, you wan to ponder over this.[/quote]According to my maid, her \"friends\" do not require to deposit $$ with the employer and they are allow to go on home leave.

She keep using this point to rebut me. \"Why others don't need, why must I?\" Despite me explaining to her that we are not filthy rich to forgo this huge sum of $$ (in case she did not return) but she is simply too stubborn to listen.

In fact I can understand the reason of her been anxious. Those are her hard-earned $$ and her family need the $$ but it is not as if we are not returning the $$ to her. We merely need assurance that she will be back.

[shine_fs]

gumiho:

[quote]It is their \"victimised\" mentality at work lor.


This maid of yours is too calculative.
You may have problems managing her even if she really returns from her home leave 'cos she already have you under her thumb (Plse pardon my frankness.)
You should seriously think abt the change.
Maid Loan can use post-dated cheques which will spread out your cost outlay. Anyway, you will also need to use the same amt (if not more) for your current maid's salary if she returns.

If you really dun wan to change, then you may have to just take the risk to let her take back all the money and hope for the best lor.
Btw, are you so sure that she wans to renew the contract with you? Is there a hidden agenda to all these \"stubborn-ness\" and \"unreasonableness\" and \"counting every cents with employer\"?
Maybe, you wan to ponder over this.

According to my maid, her \"friends\" do not require to deposit $$ with the employer and they are allow to go on home leave.

She keep using this point to rebut me. \"Why others don't need, why must I?\" Despite me explaining to her that we are not filthy rich to forgo this huge sum of $$ (in case she did not return) but she is simply too stubborn to listen.

In fact I can understand the reason of her been anxious. Those are her hard-earned $$ and her family need the $$ but it is not as if we are not returning the $$ to her. We merely need assurance that she will be back.[/quote]I had already brought the airticket for my maid to go home in Aug to celebrate Hari Raya Pausa with her family.

I explained to her that will hold her S$500 in her bank. Just in case she not coming back and the money will not be return to her.

S$500 for :-
Airticket (from Sin to Jkt)
15 days of home leave pay
Min of deposit in bank is S$500

She understand and agreed with me. F.Y.I, her contract ONLY end in Nov'11. I let her go on home leave earlier to celebrate her new year with her family.

[gumiho]

Glad that all of you has such an understanding maid.


I merely told our maid to pay for the airfare ($162) and she refused.

[hquek]

jtoh:

If a Filipino maid goes on home leave, she'll need to get paperwork done at the embassy right? One of which is a contract which states that her salary must be minimum USD400 and one day off every week. So if a maid goes on home leave, we have to up her salary to USD400? Agencies say that you can tell the maid that we will not follow the contract. But the maid can always bring the contract to the embassy for enforcement?


What are your experiences and views on this?

I hear of pp signing another contract privately superseding the USD400 to bring the salary back to the original agreed amount. I think that's the best way to protect oneself. Verbal can never stand up in court. I would never trust any agency that just rely on 'say' - black and white is king. If the maid would bring that contract to the embassy, I would then produce the latter copy. IN such cases, it'll be the end of the employer/ee relationship - but I won't pay USD400 unless i see that kind of value in that maid's work.

[bzmum22]

hquek:

jtoh:

If a Filipino maid goes on home leave, she'll need to get paperwork done at the embassy right? One of which is a contract which states that her salary must be minimum USD400 and one day off every week. So if a maid goes on home leave, we have to up her salary to USD400? Agencies say that you can tell the maid that we will not follow the contract. But the maid can always bring the contract to the embassy for enforcement?


What are your experiences and views on this?

I hear of pp signing another contract privately superseding the USD400 to bring the salary back to the original agreed amount. I think that's the best way to protect oneself. Verbal can never stand up in court. I would never trust any agency that just rely on 'say' - black and white is king. If the maid would bring that contract to the embassy, I would then produce the latter copy. IN such cases, it'll be the end of the employer/ee relationship - but I won't pay USD400 unless i see that kind of value in that maid's work.

My maid is brought in a year plus ago with POEA (that is this agreement on US400 salary and 1 day off per week). The agency made all parties sign another contract to supersede this POEA when the maid come into Spore. She was a fresh new maid, not renewal case.

[jtoh]

bzmum22:

hquek:

[quote=\"jtoh\"]If a Filipino maid goes on home leave, she'll need to get paperwork done at the embassy right? One of which is a contract which states that her salary must be minimum USD400 and one day off every week. So if a maid goes on home leave, we have to up her salary to USD400? Agencies say that you can tell the maid that we will not follow the contract. But the maid can always bring the contract to the embassy for enforcement?


What are your experiences and views on this?

I hear of pp signing another contract privately superseding the USD400 to bring the salary back to the original agreed amount. I think that's the best way to protect oneself. Verbal can never stand up in court. I would never trust any agency that just rely on 'say' - black and white is king. If the maid would bring that contract to the embassy, I would then produce the latter copy. IN such cases, it'll be the end of the employer/ee relationship - but I won't pay USD400 unless i see that kind of value in that maid's work.

My maid is brought in a year plus ago with POEA (that is this agreement on US400 salary and 1 day off per week). The agency made all parties sign another contract to supersede this POEA when the maid come into Spore. She was a fresh new maid, not renewal case.[/quote]Thanks for the info, bzmum and hquek.

[jtoh]

For the shortage of maids coming out of Philippines, is it because the maids don’t want to come to Singapore or because the Filipino govt is making it difficult for them to come out?