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    • jedamumJ Offline
      jedamum
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      sleepy:
      Ask my dd to practice writing, her tears will roll. She would continue writing while grumbling 'I hate Chinese' & then get full marks for her tingxie nevertheless


      I guess I've given up hope that she would fall in love with Chinese one day. I'm very grateful if she would just endure it 😓
      sleepy,

      my ds1 who doesn't speak good mandarin (he usually translates his english thoughts to mandarin before speaking) considers Chinese as his favourite subject (as of now 😉). i have to thank Berries' (again 😉) teachers and his current batch of chinese classmates (although i think he is in the bottom tier in his Chinese class, he relish the exposure to his fellow classmates' superb chinese diction - guess i'm lucky that he overcome the initial stress). have to thank Chief too for the e-dict too 😉
      He doesn't always get full marks though, but i'm just glad i don't have to nag at him to practise tingxie and doing chinese workbook and his chinese handwriting (not as much if compared to english handwriting :roll:). 😄

      so sleepy, i think your girl just need to be in the right 'environment' and be motivated by the right teacher to bring out her potential (don't like chinese but still can get full marks...surely have good foundation 😉). 🙂

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        titank
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        similar book like \"Zi Xing Hua\" will probably have more interesting factor in recognition of words.


        May I know what book is this? Beside the book, any recomended enrichement centre where I can enroll?

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          sleepy
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          jedamum:
          sleepy:

          Ask my dd to practice writing, her tears will roll. She would continue writing while grumbling 'I hate Chinese' & then get full marks for her tingxie nevertheless


          I guess I've given up hope that she would fall in love with Chinese one day. I'm very grateful if she would just endure it 😓

          sleepy,

          so sleepy, i think your girl just need to be in the right 'environment' and be motivated by the right teacher to bring out her potential (don't like chinese but still can get full marks...surely have good foundation 😉). 🙂

          She's kiasu, ready to join KiasuChildren.com 😎

          Hopefully she encounters a good teacher in school who can motivate her

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            PlayfulFairy
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            Hi all,


            May I know when do the P1 kids start to write compositions? Term 3, 4? What is the required minimum number of sentences? Is it a 1-picture kinda compo? Are there any recommended books from Popular which provide a guideline of how to teach Chinese compo writing?

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              mowmow
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              PlayfulFairy:
              Hi all,


              May I know when do the P1 kids start to write compositions? Term 3, 4? What is the required minimum number of sentences? Is it a 1-picture kinda compo? Are there any recommended books from Popular which provide a guideline of how to teach Chinese compo writing?
              Not sure about other schools, but in my sons' school, they only need to write 5 sentences about a picture start T3 . Not really composition writing, they will only start proper compo in P2.

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                MummyJo
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                PlayfulFairy:
                Hi all,


                May I know when do the P1 kids start to write compositions? Term 3, 4? What is the required minimum number of sentences? Is it a 1-picture kinda compo? Are there any recommended books from Popular which provide a guideline of how to teach Chinese compo writing?
                At my daughter's school they start at T1 by having a Show and Tell, e.i. must say something about family picture. Something like 5-6 sentences.

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                  June
                  last edited by

                  yes the same goes for my ds too…in fact he had one show and tel in jan and another coming up right after CNY.

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                    lemonthree
                    last edited by

                    Hi, was confused by the changes in the chinese syllabus…


                    I thought MOE’S focusing on HYPY?
                    But schools stop emphasing it after term 2 is it?
                    So will it affect the child if HYPY’S lousy, as in for PSLE?
                    Do they still have specific character list that they die die must know one?
                    If so, can anyone please tell me so i can start drilling?..

                    Also, are there any good methods to teach children chinese?
                    She absolutely wouldnt speak chinese…
                    Relies on HYPY but cant recognise the characters/meaning…

                    Help help please!

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                      curiousl-ks
                      last edited by

                      lemonthree:
                      Hi, was confused by the changes in the chinese syllabus..


                      I thought MOE'S focusing on HYPY?
                      But schools stop emphasing it after term 2 is it?
                      So will it affect the child if HYPY'S lousy, as in for PSLE?
                      Do they still have specific character list that they die die must know one?
                      If so, can anyone please tell me so i can start drilling?..

                      Also, are there any good methods to teach children chinese?
                      She absolutely wouldnt speak chinese..
                      Relies on HYPY but cant recognise the characters/meaning...

                      Help help please!
                      Hi lemontree,

                      HYPY can be used to learn Chinese but it is not Chinese. In the way that phonics is to the English language.

                      the syllabus for P1 is start term 1 and 2 with HYPY. they have to intrudce Chinese characters after.

                      i see different phases in learning Chinese.This is how i had approached it with my dd who is now in P1.

                      Phase 1 - HYPY and Chinese Radicals (bi hua), conversation
                      for HYPY, practice often by getting the kid to verbalise the word through HYPY. There are CD from popular you can buy to get the multiple practises. some enrichment/ kindy actually started preparing kids on HYPY for K2, Better to give your child a head start.
                      For Chinese radicals, there are also workbook on bi hua but i find mos useful to get my dd to write chinese chracters, by providing her the order. after a while, she gets the hang of the rules and orders of the different strokes.
                      I find that languages are best learn when there are plenty of listening.
                      Talk to the child about different theme, topics in chinese...

                      Phase 2 - word recognition
                      Create word cards for common words, you can create collections of words dfferent themes There is also a good workbook in popular book store on Chinese high frequency words

                      Phase 3 - recognising phrase (chracters added together to form phrases)In term 3 onwards in P1, the emphasis will shift to word recognise. this is where more reading comes in... read alongside the child and help to single different common phrases...

                      Talk to the kid on diferemt topics, take a picture from book, or newpaper, talk about the settng, what happen, etc

                      Sometime, a single character can be part of different phrases...

                      Phase 4 - sentences
                      Practices order of words in the sentence. If the child reads or speaks regularly, it help them to get these rights. there are also workbook on this.

                      Phase 5 - comprehesion
                      This comes with more word recognistion and increase vocan, i can't emphasize more the importance of reading

                      Phase 6 - compo
                      i am still tryiing to work on that. and may probably need some external help towards later part of P1 only.

                      I started working my DD on HYPY as early as mid last year. it took her 6 months to master it well. My DD now can read passages on her own as long as there are HYPY. it also help to build her confidence. so, i would advocate that you invest more effort on HYPY, don't just rely on the school.

                      And because of the more regular readng and conversations, she can recognise more words, improve her vocab and can now recognise more phrases.

                      I also find that readng short passages aloud help to build confidence in speaking. there are nice little books on nursery rhyme or even chinese poems (tangshi) which are quite fun to recite.

                      She actually enjoys the language now... 8 months after i started drilling her on HYPY.

                      Some of the phases overlap and are concurrent.

                      this strtucre has worked for me...
                      i hope it's useful.

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                        lemonthree
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                        Whao. ok. thanks!

                        so does the PSLE tests on HYPY? Or just the school tests have them?

                        Oso, any recommendations for the assessment books?

                        Thanks!

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