Post GE 2011 Discussion

[Oppsgal]

Funz:

As an employer, I want them to ease the policy on hiring foreign workers. This policy to allow more foreign workers into Singapore is poison to some but balm to others so where to strike the balance?

Singapore citizens should come first...Balance should be taken into consideration for the majority citizens and not just the employer who is Singaporean?

For other countries like Japan etc, mostly their own citizens get the jobs first, not much fighting for jobs with other foreigners...

[Funz]

Oppsgal, the problem some of us employers face is not that we do not want to hire locals but are unable to find locals who are willing to take up the job. So if we are unable to find enough workers to keep the business going, what do you think will happen? Even the few locals whom we have hired will be out of jobs because we have to close shop.


Hire only foreign workers in construction line? Have you seen who are the ones doing your aircon servicing, pruning the trees, cleaning your backyard? You reckon there are enough Singaporeans willing to take those jobs?

Don’t get me wrong, I get equally irritated when service staff come up to me and I cannot understand a word they are saying and they seem to have problems understanding me. But having friends in the F&B and retail business, I know they do not have much choice. They need hands and legs to dish out the food so they compromise on the ability to speak English. A wounded soldier is better then none.

A friend of mine had to put her expansion plans on hold and even wind up one of her restaurants due to manpower issues. Because of that, her restaurant manager who is a Singaporean is out of a job. Because she is unable to expand, there is a loss of employment opportunity for Singaporeans.

[concern2]

Has anyone posted this link before? Made me watching CST from his youth. Mrs Chiam looked so beautiful too.


It's titled \"Thank you Mr. Chiam\" Also, catch a glimpse of how meet the people session is like in the video. Really :scared:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oX5lxAUci-A

[concern2]

Funz:

A friend of mine had to put her expansion plans on hold and even wind up one of her restaurants due to manpower issues. Because of that, her restaurant manager who is a Singaporean is out of a job. Because she is unable to expand, there is a loss of employment opportunity for Singaporeans.

A big portion of cost in the service industry comes from the ever-rising rental. What is the rationale in the rise of rental har? :? :?

[Funz]

concern2:

Funz:

A friend of mine had to put her expansion plans on hold and even wind up one of her restaurants due to manpower issues. Because of that, her restaurant manager who is a Singaporean is out of a job. Because she is unable to expand, there is a loss of employment opportunity for Singaporeans.

A big portion of cost in the service industry comes from the ever-rising rental. What is the rationale in the rise of rental har? :? :?

Dunno not an expert in this area. How about the simple reason of demand out stripping supply? My business is run out of a HDB commercial property/govt owned properties. My rent has remained relatively stable. I tried tendering for other HDB commercial properties, the minimum bids for these tenders are not high but the people tendering for these properties can put in bids that are up to 5x the opening bid.

[limlim]

Oppsgal:

Singapore citizens should come first...Balance should be taken into consideration for the majority citizens and not just the employer who is Singaporean?

That essentially boils down to a basic question.. The Govt's duty is to serve the pple or serve the corporations?

[corneyAmber]

Wah....they really want to put pressure on TPL or spite the choice of TPL ?? I still maintain that NS needs to garner more experience first otherwise she may end up like TPL when she is more exposed.


http://www.asiaone.com/News/AsiaOne%2BNews/Singapore/Story/A1Story20110511-278302.html

[DesertWind]

raysusan:

Thank You Mr Chiam


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oX5lxAUci-A&feature=feedlik

This brought tears to my eyes. Thank you Mr Chiam!
:sad:

[Funz]

insider:

Funz:

As for your analogy of boss asking a salesperson to sell toxic stuff, well the salesperson can quit. And if guided by his moral compass, then that should be the obvious choice. But so long as he is still employed by the company, he has to wear the corporate hat and at most toe the work ethics line.

Think the problem is if willing to sell the toxic stuff then can get million dollars salary. So this moral compass is seriously challenged...

not getting into the discussion on morals. Too complicated.

Funz:

Remember, hindsight is 20/20, at the time when people were benefitting from the rise of HDB prices and were able to use these as stepping stones into private properties where were the voices that say nay to pegging the HDB prices to mkt price?

I am one of those who profited a lot from buying and selling of HDB... It should not be allowed to happen in the first place as I can see 'bubbles' now and then (which I am also seeing bubbles now) that I timed and profited accordingly. Just like GY said, the 道, that one has to flow according to the tide. Have to make sense, survive and make the best in any kind of tides. Allow bubbles to happen benefit people like me and those more ignorant ones will suffer which is unfair.

I did not have that kind of luck, to make money out of HDBs. We talk our lingo ok? You have a class of 20 kids. In this cohort you have the 2 or 3 super performers, 14-16 average performers and another 2 to 3 sub-performers. How do you tailor your lesson plans. Scale it up to the level of super performers or down to sub performers or just cater to the majority and ignore the exceptions? Or do you scaffold the super performers and bridge the sub performers and yet keep the average performers on par. You and I know it is no easy task to do the latter. Whatever you choose, whether you will be judged right or wrong, it all depends on which category the person judging your decision fall under.

Funz:

As an employer, I want them to ease the policy on hiring foreign workers. This policy to allow more foreign workers into Singapore is poison to some but balm to others so where to strike the balance?

Foreign workers are a must in Singapore, esp in the service industry.

The balance that they need to strike is not to let foreigners take over our more high paying management jobs and hang our experienced people who got retrenched or our young graduates high and dry in the air...

In this aspect, you and I are of like mind. But have you heard what the rest are saying? They don't want a service staff who is from China or Philippines or India.

[Daddy D]

Funz:

A friend of mine had to put her expansion plans on hold and even wind up one of her restaurants due to manpower issues. Because of that, her restaurant manager who is a Singaporean is out of a job. Because she is unable to expand, there is a loss of employment opportunity for Singaporeans.

But then again... e.g. a company which employs 1 SG manager and 10 foreigner staffs... it can shut down for all I care.
Likewise for those MNCs... e.g. 10 SG mgmt/supervisors to 100 foreigner productions workers... doesn't raise employment of locals... so who do benefit in the end?