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      kiddo
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      ksi:
      I have no statistics nor hardcore facts to back me up but I think Singapore started pretty much the same way since most immigrants are from China.

      The infra-structure is in place to regulate so the hardcore discipline or harsh actions are no longer required but let's quietly remember the goodness of it if we look at the outrageous practices we hear of in China today.
      :salute: there is a lot of ignorant and fake going on in many part of China, so some baby survive some dont,

      ksi - like your analogy , China will have a super long way to go with
      reform - 1 billion people - we need good people at the top to move this Giant to compassion.

      # real case - Hainan island a childless couple after 10 years survive artificial insemination and bring a set of yuan yang twins till 7 months only to lost both baby pre maturely born because the doctor have no proper care for the child , they bottle fed the pre matured baby with bare hands. The baby gal died cos nobody knew that the mother should be in bed by month 7 - being small built - her pregnancy is a miracle so is a high risk case , the water bag burst and they drove one to two hours to the nearest hospital - you think the pre matured baby can survive 😒 😒 - I was also angry
      I ask many people here - if they have the care we have in SG :mad: :sad: and only if the couple know better , I attribute this big part to ignorant and part to the Medical readiness.
      At least one should survive - by the way baby boy lasted 7 days before he pass away.
      Imagine the couple's grieve and they are superb people.
      (the hospitality they shown my family while we were there holidaying is unforgetable. The odds stack against them is too high :sad: )

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        pinky
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        nowasdays can see so many stalls selling cheap china made products in wet markets like $2.50 t-shirts, $1 porcelain plates and bowls, and household items from $0.50

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          sall
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          I have a student from China who told me not to eat canned food from China, especially meat products. He said all the meat comes from sick or dead pigs, sometimes, they also use meat from other unidentified animals. He told me the richer Chinese also don’t eat them.

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            ImMeeMee
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            verykiasu2010:
            my gut feel is that the vaccine used was fake, just like everything in China


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            :celebrate: :rotflmao:

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              pinky
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              sall:
              I have a student from China who told me not to eat canned food from China, especially meat products. He said all the meat comes from sick or dead pigs, sometimes, they also use meat from other unidentified animals. He told me the richer Chinese also don't eat them.

              the pork balls that are sold there contains dog, cat and other unidentified animals except pig. This was reported in the papers.

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                SAHM_TAN
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                A hello kitty waterbottle made in Japan and one made in China are visually different, The quality is not the same.


                What to do our market has more made in china than from other countries. Even if the food product is made in another country, we do not know if they use any of the ingredients from China

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                  pinky
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                  SAHM_TAN:
                  A hello kitty waterbottle made in Japan and one made in China are visually different, The quality is not the same.


                  What to do our market has more made in china than from other countries. Even if the food product is made in another country, we do not know if they use any of the ingredients from China
                  I have seen food packaging in Japanese and flipped back can see small printing that said made in cbina.

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                    verykiasu2010
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                    pinky:
                    SAHM_TAN:

                    A hello kitty waterbottle made in Japan and one made in China are visually different, The quality is not the same.


                    What to do our market has more made in china than from other countries. Even if the food product is made in another country, we do not know if they use any of the ingredients from China

                    I have seen food packaging in Japanese and flipped back can see small printing that said made in cbina.

                    Japanese companies also make their food in China, eg Nissin

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                      pinky
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                      verykiasu2010:
                      pinky:

                      [quote=\"SAHM_TAN\"]A hello kitty waterbottle made in Japan and one made in China are visually different, The quality is not the same.


                      What to do our market has more made in china than from other countries. Even if the food product is made in another country, we do not know if they use any of the ingredients from China

                      I have seen food packaging in Japanese and flipped back can see small printing that said made in cbina.

                      Japanese companies also make their food in China, eg Nissin[/quote]I think besides them, many well known brands also
                      nowasdays when I buy foodstuff, I will always read the fine print that states the country it is made in. If it's China, I usually put off buying.

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                        verykiasu2010
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                        actually some of them do source for ingredients from China, under certain conditions, then the products are made in Japan.


                        very popular area is north east china’s 3 provinces like jilin and liaoning etc where the Jap actually lease the land for their farm but harvest the produce and process the food in Japan to minimise potential contamination, esp pharma products

                        they are aware of the potential ground water contamination in various parts of china

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