P2 Math - General Discussion

[corneyAmber]

rrjan:

thank you ksi, I thnik I'm getting a better picture of model drawing now

You are welcome.

[Vevey]

rrjan:

1. Bernice and Susan had and equal number of hairclips. When Bernice gave Susan 56 hairclips, Susan had 5 times as many hairclips as Bernice. How many hairclips did Susan have after that?


2. When Franz gave 342 stamps to Gabriel, Gabriel had 7 times as many stamps as what Franz had left. If they had an equal number of stamps at first, how many stamps did Gabriel have in the end?

Kindly teach me how to draw model for these 2 qns.

Thanks for the kind help

R these qns P1 or 2?
Under Multiplications?

[nms1]

lizuan76:

Hi parents of P1,


How are your child copying in math P1? Last night my girl told me she can't finish her math task and she is the last one to submit the paper. Hai so stress even in P1 nowadays.

Is it time to send her for math class? :idea:

Some of the concepts that they have to grasp for addition/subtraction are not simple so I wouldn't worry too much at this stage unless she really doesn't understand anything.

I picked up on some homework questions a few weeks ago that my daughter couldn't do on her own and emailed the teacher to let her know. She called me back to say that she had realised a lot of them didn't understand so she would review it with them again.

I would suggest checking with the teacher first before starting on the tuition route.

[corneyAmber]

Vevey:

rrjan:

1. Bernice and Susan had and equal number of hairclips. When Bernice gave Susan 56 hairclips, Susan had 5 times as many hairclips as Bernice. How many hairclips did Susan have after that?


2. When Franz gave 342 stamps to Gabriel, Gabriel had 7 times as many stamps as what Franz had left. If they had an equal number of stamps at first, how many stamps did Gabriel have in the end?

Kindly teach me how to draw model for these 2 qns.

Thanks for the kind help

R these qns P1 or 2?
Under Multiplications?

These are more P3 questions.
P1 no models. P2 simple models. Having said this, some schools may teach ahead, like neighborhood ones. This is just generalization.

[pjlee25]

Hi,

there are many pri 1 maths assessment books out there…may I know which one is recommended for Rulang’s standard pls?

[poppy15]

ksi:

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ksi, u are an expert in both model drawing & problem solving.. can u be my tutor instead?

:udawoman:

[janet88]

tamarind:

I came across this maths problem in the P1 assessment of Nanyang Primary School.


There were 51 passengers in a bus. Some passengers alighted at the first bus stop. How many passengers alighted at the first bus stop if 39 passengers were left in the bus ?

Are the teachers trying to test the students' English or Maths ?

I also think that it is not reasonable to expect 7 year old children to know how to do 51 - 39. I am talking about an average child. Not those gifted ones or those who have been through countless enrichment classes.

Hi Tamarind,
I am glad you agree that P1s now are not having an easy time in school.
My daughter's recent Math assessment made me realize I've neglected her for the past 6 months :slapshead: ...she is already having a problem understanding when to subtract. Worse thing is, this mummy is hopeless in Maths and having problems understanding :scratchhead: when to add and subtract.
Maths problem sums now seem to be a play of language...just can't understand why this is so. Why can't sums be straightforward ? If schools want to sieve out those kids with higher ability, by all means throw in 1 or 2 of these tough ones, but leave the rest understood by the average children.

[Callie Tan]

janet_lee88:

tamarind:

I came across this maths problem in the P1 assessment of Nanyang Primary School.


There were 51 passengers in a bus. Some passengers alighted at the first bus stop. How many passengers alighted at the first bus stop if 39 passengers were left in the bus ?

Are the teachers trying to test the students' English or Maths ?

I also think that it is not reasonable to expect 7 year old children to know how to do 51 - 39. I am talking about an average child. Not those gifted ones or those who have been through countless enrichment classes.

Hi Tamarind,
I am glad you agree that P1s now are not having an easy time in school.
My daughter's recent Math assessment made me realize I've neglected her for the past 6 months :slapshead: ...she is already having a problem understanding when to subtract. Worse thing is, this mummy is hopeless in Maths and having problems understanding :scratchhead: when to add and subtract.
Maths problem sums now seem to be a play of language...just can't understand why this is so. Why can't sums be straightforward ? If schools want to sieve out those kids with higher ability, by all means throw in 1 or 2 of these tough ones, but leave the rest understood by the average children.

There's nothing much we can do but to better prepare our kids for such questions... Exposure to similae questions may be a way...

[Yong HL]

i also came across the following P1 question:

Adam and Mark caught 19 crabs altogether. How many more crabs did Adam catch than Mark if Mark caught caught 8 crabs.

For me, i have to read this question at least twice before understanding it. Let alone a P1 kid…

[janet88]

Yong HL:

i also came across the following P1 question:

Adam and Mark caught 19 crabs altogether. How many more crabs did Adam catch than Mark if Mark caught caught 8 crabs.

For me, i have to read this question at least twice before understanding it. Let alone a P1 kid...

So that means 19-8 right ? To find out how many crabs Adam caught.
Good gracious, how would P1 kids know they have to subtract ? :siao:
I have to remind myself that 'many more than' doesn't mean addition.
This play for words is too much for P1s to digest. :stompfeet: