DSA 2011
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I feel sad hearing that we are adopting FT from such a young age knowing that many are merely using Singapore as a stepping stone. In fact today’s Sunday Times interviewed a boy studying in local school (father award winning newscaster or something) who said US is better for making money. 20% of enrolment – combining RI, HCI and NUSH year 1 enrolment, 20% means 150 spaces given to foreigners ?
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Yes, some said NYGH alot of Pr too.
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breanne:
I feel sad hearing that we are adopting FT from such a young age knowing that many are merely using Singapore as a stepping stone. In fact today's Sunday Times interviewed a boy studying in local school (father award winning newscaster or something) who said US is better for making money. 20% of enrolment -- combining RI, HCI and NUSH year 1 enrolment, 20% means 150 spaces given to foreigners ?
Long Ago (and I Mean >30 years Back) .... in a Land Called Singa-pura ....
PSC has issued scholarships to students from the ASEAN countries to study in the Local Pre-U .... and Even Sec 1 ....
These Kids Stays here on their own in the then Nanyang U hostels, all by themselves, far away from home ....
The Only company they have R Like-situation youngsters ....
And They Could be as young as 12 year old ....
And there R No \"Pei-Du-Mama\" in those days -hor ....
And their Parents R .... Not any Award Winners, Nor Rich Folks ....
So the Practice of Allocating spaces in Sec Sch, JC, or Even Uni ....
to Foreign Students has long been practiced ....
So one Just have to Work Hard to Win it, Right? -
Funx3:
:goodpost:breanne:
I feel sad hearing that we are adopting FT from such a young age knowing that many are merely using Singapore as a stepping stone. In fact today's Sunday Times interviewed a boy studying in local school (father award winning newscaster or something) who said US is better for making money. 20% of enrolment -- combining RI, HCI and NUSH year 1 enrolment, 20% means 150 spaces given to foreigners ?
Long Ago (and I Mean >30 years Back) .... in a Land Called Singa-pura ....
PSC has issued scholarships to students from the ASEAN countries to study in the Local Pre-U .... and Even Sec 1 ....
These Kids Stays here on their own in the then Nanyang U hostels, all by themselves, far away from home ....
The Only company they have R Like-situation youngsters ....
And They Could be as young as 12 year old ....
And there R No \"Pei-Du-Mama\" in those days -hor ....
And their Parents R .... Not any Award Winners, Nor Rich Folks ....
So the Practice of Allocating spaces in Sec Sch, JC, or Even Uni ....
to Foreign Students has long been practiced ....
So one Just have to Work Hard to Win it, Right? -
Talking about papers, have you guys read about RI’s sports school in today’s papers ?
So are they taking more DSA for sports this year ? -
breanne:
I feel sad hearing that we are adopting FT from such a young age knowing that many are merely using Singapore as a stepping stone. In fact today's Sunday Times interviewed a boy studying in local school (father award winning newscaster or something) who said US is better for making money. 20% of enrolment -- combining RI, HCI and NUSH year 1 enrolment, 20% means 150 spaces given to foreigners ?
I understand how most people feel about FT depriving our kids of a place in good schools. However, is it a fact? Perhaps I could raise the example of NUSH to show that it may not be the case. NUSH planned to take in 170 Year 1 students for 2011 intake. However, even with the high number of so called FTs (even though these FT kids had done their primary education here), NUSH took in only 140 kids, including S1 postings. For those Singaporeans who failed to get a place in NUSH, is it a case of FT depriving them a place or is it a case of NUSH felt that they were not suitable? I believe the number speaks for itself.
During my time in the uni, many of my classmates were from Malaysia. But guess what? Most of them found jobs & spouse here and 90% have settled down and helped our economy. I believe many of these so called FTs will eventually settle down in Singapore. -
DVL:
I am prepared to be stoned for saying this :breanne:
I feel sad hearing that we are adopting FT from such a young age knowing that many are merely using Singapore as a stepping stone. In fact today's Sunday Times interviewed a boy studying in local school (father award winning newscaster or something) who said US is better for making money. 20% of enrolment -- combining RI, HCI and NUSH year 1 enrolment, 20% means 150 spaces given to foreigners ?
I understand how most people feel about FT depriving our kids of a place in good schools. However, is it a fact? Perhaps I could raise the example of NUSH to show that it may not be the case. NUSH planned to take in 170 Year 1 students for 2011 intake. However, even with the high number of so called FTs (even though these FT kids had done their primary education here), NUSH took in only 140 kids, including S1 postings. For those Singaporeans who failed to get a place in NUSH, is it a case of FT depriving them a place or is it a case of NUSH felt that they were not suitable? I believe the number speaks for itself.
During my time in the uni, many of my classmates were from Malaysia. But guess what? Most of them found jobs & spouse here and 90% have settled down and helped our economy. I believe many of these so called FTs will eventually settle down in Singapore.
1. the number of foreign students do not even make up for the short fall of babies born each year in singapore to replace the aging and dying each year
2. many of them do localise and become citizens, those that return to their home countries will still be part of the network of your kids - when they become decision makers in their countries or their biz at home countries --- at least they understand S'pore better & how we work; and who knows, your kids become minister and they become minister in their countries and lo, it makes international relation better, and easier to manage, they can always call each other.....look at the larger picture please....
3. in any case talented people move freely around the world, whatever their nationalities, that is the nature of thing; & talented singapore citizens are all over the world too, and NOT coming back ! and we need more to replace these too !
4. too much inbreeding is not helpful
when I go to meetings in London & NY, bound to meet Singaporeans working there among the bankers and lawyers.......and scientists in France and Germany .... alongside the Hongkongers and PRC & Taiwanese Chinese in those major cities
it is hoped that the younger students coming here would stay longer with us as they grow up here living the Singaporean way of life, compared to just coming for uni or post-grad.....sure got leakage, just like talented Singaporeans going away
(S'pore not that attractive as a post-grad destination)...give u an idea of talent grooming : NYU has a full campus in Shanghai and Mid East but not S'pore
another way to look at it : singapore got it cheap because these people come as adults /almost adults --- it would otherwise cost Singapore much much more tax payers' money to produce and groom that many bright students (scholars/talent or not) in short notice ... someone else have done the hard work of rearing them....
okay, let the stones fly ..... :siam: :siam:
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verykiasu2010:
I am prepared to be stoned for saying this :DVL:
[quote=\"breanne\"]I feel sad hearing that we are adopting FT from such a young age knowing that many are merely using Singapore as a stepping stone. In fact today's Sunday Times interviewed a boy studying in local school (father award winning newscaster or something) who said US is better for making money. 20% of enrolment -- combining RI, HCI and NUSH year 1 enrolment, 20% means 150 spaces given to foreigners ?
I understand how most people feel about FT depriving our kids of a place in good schools. However, is it a fact? Perhaps I could raise the example of NUSH to show that it may not be the case. NUSH planned to take in 170 Year 1 students for 2011 intake. However, even with the high number of so called FTs (even though these FT kids had done their primary education here), NUSH took in only 140 kids, including S1 postings. For those Singaporeans who failed to get a place in NUSH, is it a case of FT depriving them a place or is it a case of NUSH felt that they were not suitable? I believe the number speaks for itself.
During my time in the uni, many of my classmates were from Malaysia. But guess what? Most of them found jobs & spouse here and 90% have settled down and helped our economy. I believe many of these so called FTs will eventually settle down in Singapore.
1. the number of foreign students do not even make up for the short fall of babies born each year in singapore to replace the aging and dying each year
2. many of them do localise and become citizens, those that return to their home countries will still be part of the network of your kids - when they become decision makers in their countries or their biz at home countries --- at least they understand S'pore better & how we work; and who knows, your kids become minister and they become minister in their countries and lo, it makes international relation better, and easier to manage, they can always call each other.....look at the larger picture please....
3. in any case talented people move freely around the world, whatever their nationalities, that is the nature of thing; & talented singapore citizens are all over the world too, and NOT coming back ! and we need more to replace these too !
4. too much inbreeding is not helpful
when I go to meetings in London & NY, bound to meet Singaporeans working there among the bankers and lawyers.......and scientists in France and Germany .... alongside the Hongkongers and PRC & Taiwanese Chinese in those major cities
it is hoped that the younger students coming here would stay longer with us as they grow up here living the Singaporean way of life, compared to just coming for uni or post-grad.....sure got leakage, just like talented Singaporeans going away
(S'pore not that attractive as a post-grad destination)...give u an idea of talent grooming : NYU has a full campus in Shanghai and Mid East but not S'pore
another way to look at it : singapore got it cheap because these people come as adults /almost adults --- it would otherwise cost Singapore much much more tax payers' money to produce and groom that many bright students (scholars/talent or not) in short notice ... someone else have done the hard work of rearing them....
okay, let the stones fly ..... :siam: :siam: [/quote]verykiasu2010, you are not only kiasu, but also very brave :udaman:
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Hello Verykiasu2010,
Well said and I enjoy reading your post.
Cheers,
Lynn2verykiasu2010:
I am prepared to be stoned for saying this :
I understand how most people feel about FT depriving our kids of a place in good schools. However, is it a fact? Perhaps I could raise the example of NUSH to show that it may not be the case. NUSH planned to take in 170 Year 1 students for 2011 intake. However, even with the high number of so called FTs (even though these FT kids had done their primary education here), NUSH took in only 140 kids, including S1 postings. For those Singaporeans who failed to get a place in NUSH, is it a case of FT depriving them a place or is it a case of NUSH felt that they were not suitable? I believe the number speaks for itself.DVL:
[quote=\"breanne\"]I feel sad hearing that we are adopting FT from such a young age knowing that many are merely using Singapore as a stepping stone. In fact today's Sunday Times interviewed a boy studying in local school (father award winning newscaster or something) who said US is better for making money. 20% of enrolment -- combining RI, HCI and NUSH year 1 enrolment, 20% means spaces given to foreigners ?
During my time in the uni, many of my classmates were from Malaysia. But guess what? Most of them found jobs & spouse here and 90% have settled down and helped our economy. I believe many of these so called FTs will eventually settle down in Singapore.
1. the number of foreign students do not even make up for the short fall of babies born each year in singapore to replace the aging and dying each year
2. many of them do localise and become citizens, those that return to their home countries will still be part of the network of your kids - when they become decision makers in their countries or their biz at home countries --- at least they understand S'pore better & how we work; and who knows, your kids become minister and they become minister in their countries and lo, it makes international relation better, and easier to manage, they can always call each other.....look at the larger picture please....
3. in any case talented people move freely around the world, whatever their nationalities, that is the nature of thing; & talented singapore citizens are all over the world too, and NOT coming back ! and we need more to replace these too !
4. too much inbreeding is not helpful
when I go to meetings in London & NY, bound to meet Singaporeans working there among the bankers and lawyers.......and scientists in France and Germany .... alongside the Hongkongers and PRC & Taiwanese Chinese in those major cities
it is hoped that the younger students coming here would stay longer with us as they grow up here living the Singaporean way of life, compared to just coming for uni or post-grad.....sure got leakage, just like talented Singaporeans going away
(S'pore not that attractive as a post-grad destination)...give u an idea of talent grooming : NYU has a full campus in Shanghai and Mid East but not S'pore
another way to look at it : singapore got it cheap because these people come as adults /almost adults --- it would otherwise cost Singapore much much more tax payers' money to produce and groom that many bright students (scholars/talent or not) in short notice ... someone else have done the hard work of rearing them....
okay, let the stones fly ..... :siam: :siam: [/quote]
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Hi vk2010,
U have said nothing but the truth though I do feel uncomfortable when I saw a few china mummies chit chatting at the RI gep interview area last week
... The chance of getting into once dream school is lesser by the no of prc .... Though not all are ' fightable'/'compatible .... Sorry if I offend anyone but just speaking from the bottom of my heart, be it Kiasu, under confident or selfish ....
Nevertheless what u said is very true and is the fact not the fats ... We got to learn to accept it somehow ...... :roll: ... :imconstipated:
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