Opinions of the Primary School Registration System

[SAHM_TAN]

buds,


Interesting idea.

[tankee]

Dear fellow KSP members


I will be merging this thread with \"Opinions of the Primary School Registration System\"

http://www.kiasuparents.com/kiasu/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=18535

later today as discussions in both threads are similar & related.

[JGMum]

buds:

Was just thinking... hmmm... :idea: Perhaps if PV candidates can be

allowed a guarantee with the hours they have clocked? :scratchhead:

Instead of getting everyone to register the phases one after another..
Since the first two phases are based on siblings, then alumni.. staff..
clan association.. other affiliation and so on.. why not do those two
phases earlier?

Upon release of the results of the first two phases.. parents can then
see clearer vacancies available on the schools they have shortlisted..
They then decide where to PV depending on the quota of PV of the
school of choice. The remainder then goes for P2C and supp..

This means though those who fall in the first two phases will need to
register two years earlier. :shock: you know... to fulfill PV duties and
those from clan and grassroot avenue can also fulfill theirs?

Just thinking aloud..

:siam:

I think this is a good idea. It starts the registration process earlier, but I think that MOE and schools would be able to handle the additional admin. It would also get parents to start thinking about P1 enrollment (2 years) earlier, and make the necessary arrangements to improve their chances like moving house within 1 km, do PV, etc. and not wait until last minute, then realise that we have missed the deadline for PV application for example.

[jasmin.044422LEONG]

Thoughts I have:

PR has more choice, they can either go Singapore schools or international schools whereas citizen like us need to seek MOE approval to enter international schools.
Obviously the intake this year is reduced as quite a few schools reduce their number. Hence the intense competition, ballot in neighborhood schools which never used to have. Is MOE aware?
Every year for over decade or more, the highly popular schools are the usual lots, why didn’t MOE encourage best practice sharing or principals/schools rotation or buddy systems so other schools can learn their process which supposedly worked to churn good academic students

[janet88]

MumandMe:

I support the idea to remove PV totally. If the school needs volunteers, do ask from parents whose children are already studying in the school. Where \"free labour\" (such as washing of sweet potatoes, sweeping the classrooms, lollipop man etc) is what the school needs, then the school should hire help to do the chore.

It's really ridiculous to have to do all this kind of stuff.
My idea of doing PV is to understand the school culture better. I'm sure MOE has contracts with cleaning companies to clean windows/sweep floors in schools. As for lollipop man, there are security guards who can do a better job.

[jasmin.044422LEONG]

another new immigrants effect

[galleria]

MumandMe:

smurf:

You see,the point is to minimize such things from happening. There is no phase 2 and 3, then the seats should be enough. If not enough, then go by balloting. The point is to minimize the sch being more than 50% occupied even before it reaches phase 2b.


3boys proposal is quite good.

I think a case should be made clear between genuine and non-genuine applicants who are within proximity to the school. There are many who rent a place, use a relative's address etc to ensure a better chance of entry.

This group should be separated from the genuine cases who have stayed in the neighbourhood for a period of time.

Perhaps to qualify under within 1km (and 1-2km) of the school, the applicant's parents must show proof that 1) they have stayed at the address for the past x years and 2) they own the said property.

hi MumandMe,

There is such ruling (as highlighted in your quote) a few years ago.. The ruling had since been removed.. If i am not wrong, the applicant's parents must hold the address at least for 2 years before they are qualified to register at the school..

[verykiasu2010]

jasmin.LEONG:

Thoughts I have:

PR has more choice, they can either go Singapore schools or international schools whereas citizen like us need to seek MOE approval to enter international schools.
Obviously the intake this year is reduced as quite a few schools reduce their number. Hence the intense competition, ballot in neighborhood schools which never used to have. Is MOE aware?
Every year for over decade or more, the highly popular schools are the usual lots, why didn't MOE encourage best practice sharing or principals/schools rotation or buddy systems so other schools can learn their process which supposedly worked to churn good academic students

total vacancies this year is 41,500, way above the total number of kids eligible to register for Pri 1

[MumandMe]

galleria:

hi MumandMe,

There is such ruling (as highlighted in your quote) a few years ago.. The ruling had since been removed.. If i am not wrong, the applicant's parents must hold the address at least for 2 years before they are qualified to register at the school..

Oh? This is new to me. Any idea why this qualification was removed?

[MumandMe]

janet_lee88:

MumandMe:

I support the idea to remove PV totally. If the school needs volunteers, do ask from parents whose children are already studying in the school. Where \"free labour\" (such as washing of sweet potatoes, sweeping the classrooms, lollipop man etc) is what the school needs, then the school should hire help to do the chore.

It's really ridiculous to have to do all this kind of stuff.
My idea of doing PV is to understand the school culture better. I'm sure MOE has contracts with cleaning companies to clean windows/sweep floors in schools. As for lollipop man, there are security guards who can do a better job.

This is how I feel too. Shows how 伟大 parents are. I don t think there are many who would raise their hands in enthusiasm to volunteer for such chores if not for their children's sakes.

Are the schools exploiting this weakness in parents? Or have they run out of ideas to provide more meaningful tasks to parents volunteers? In both cases, there is support to scrap the PV system.