Opinions of the Primary School Registration System

[MumandMe]

galleria:

hi MumandMe,

There is such ruling (as highlighted in your quote) a few years ago.. The ruling had since been removed.. If i am not wrong, the applicant's parents must hold the address at least for 2 years before they are qualified to register at the school..

Oh? This is new to me. Any idea why this qualification was removed?

[MumandMe]

janet_lee88:

MumandMe:

I support the idea to remove PV totally. If the school needs volunteers, do ask from parents whose children are already studying in the school. Where \"free labour\" (such as washing of sweet potatoes, sweeping the classrooms, lollipop man etc) is what the school needs, then the school should hire help to do the chore.

It's really ridiculous to have to do all this kind of stuff.
My idea of doing PV is to understand the school culture better. I'm sure MOE has contracts with cleaning companies to clean windows/sweep floors in schools. As for lollipop man, there are security guards who can do a better job.

This is how I feel too. Shows how 伟大 parents are. I don t think there are many who would raise their hands in enthusiasm to volunteer for such chores if not for their children's sakes.

Are the schools exploiting this weakness in parents? Or have they run out of ideas to provide more meaningful tasks to parents volunteers? In both cases, there is support to scrap the PV system.

[janet88]

MumandMe:

janet_lee88:

[quote=\"MumandMe\"]Where \"free labour\" (such as washing of sweet potatoes, sweeping the classrooms, lollipop man etc) is what the school needs, then the school should hire help to do the chore.

It's really ridiculous to have to do all this kind of stuff.
My idea of doing PV is to understand the school culture better. I'm sure MOE has contracts with cleaning companies to clean windows/sweep floors in schools. As for lollipop man, there are security guards who can do a better job.

This is how I feel too. Shows how 伟大 parents are. I don t think there are many who would raise their hands in enthusiasm to volunteer for such chores if not for their children's sakes.

Are the schools exploiting this weakness in parents? Or have they run out of ideas to provide more meaningful tasks to parents volunteers? In both cases, there is support to scrap the PV system.[/quote]Yes...as parents, we will do whatever we can in the name of love for our kids...but hey, getting parents to be lollipop man/watering plants/sweeping classrooms etc etc is literally an abuse of parents' time.
Since parents cannot hold 'key roles' in schools, why subject them to do such ridiculous things ? Abolish this whole PV thing then.

BTW, my son still laughs when he recalls me washing sweet potatoes to get him into the school :mad:

[limlim]

buds:

Was just thinking... hmmm... :idea: Perhaps if PV candidates can be

allowed a guarantee with the hours they have clocked? :scratchhead:

:siam:

Then it would not be PV already..

It would be a \"transaction\", not volunteering.

[limlim]

And if it is a transaction, how to control the PV application?


Pple who are rejected by the school for PV would complain… and if it is 1st come 1st serve, you might see parents applying PV after getting their child’s BC… And for those child whose BD is near end of the year, they would make noise. If there is a certain fixed application date, then the queue would be something like the queue for NDP tickets in the past… and pple would make noise again…

It is not much different from "buying" a place, other then the terms are not in monetary values.

PV is not so bad… for it does not guarantee a place… those who were rejected would likely not make too much noise…

[galleria]

MumandMe:

Oh? This is new to me. Any idea why this qualification was removed?

Not sure of the reason, perhaps is the flexibility of allowing parents who had applied/bought new/resale flats at that area to register their kids at the schools at the new address? and for PRs, some do not really own a flat.. some PRs are just renting a place to stay and sometimes does not hold up to 2 years.

[Oppsgal]

limlim:

buds:

Was just thinking... hmmm... :idea: Perhaps if PV candidates can be

allowed a guarantee with the hours they have clocked? :scratchhead:

:siam:

Then it would not be PV already..

It would be a \"transaction\", not volunteering.

I think most are doing \"volunteer work'' thinking to get a place? If there is no such thing as might get some benefits of allowing their children go in school faster than those not doing \"volunteer work'', will parents still spent the time to do the \"volunteer work''?

Actually I also not sure why is this is called \"volunteer work'', since there might be some sort of benefits :?

[MumandMe]

galleria:

Not sure of the reason, perhaps is the flexibility of allowing parents who had applied/bought new/resale flats at that area to register their kids at the schools at the new address? and for PRs, some do not really own a flat.. some PRs are just renting a place to stay and sometimes does not hold up to 2 years.

With the abuse of this flexibility, this needs to be looked into again.

[MumandMe]

janet_lee88:

Yes...as parents, we will do whatever we can in the name of love for our kids...but hey, getting parents to be lollipop man/watering plants/sweeping classrooms etc etc is literally an abuse of parents' time.
Since parents cannot hold 'key roles' in schools, why subject them to do such ridiculous things ? Abolish this whole PV thing then.

BTW, my son still laughs when he recalls me washing sweet potatoes to get him into the school :mad:

[limlim]

Oppsgal:

limlim:

[quote=\"buds\"]Was just thinking... hmmm... :idea: Perhaps if PV candidates can be

allowed a guarantee with the hours they have clocked? :scratchhead:

:siam:

Then it would not be PV already..

It would be a \"transaction\", not volunteering.

I think most are doing \"volunteer work'' thinking to get a place? If there is no such thing as might get some benefits of allowing their children go in school faster than those not doing \"volunteer work'', will parents still spent the time to do the \"volunteer work''?

Actually I also not sure why is this is called \"volunteer work'', since there might be some sort of benefits :?[/quote]It would became \"volunteer work\" when they did not get a place :evil: :evil:

There's a reason why it is \"volunteer\" and not \"a P1 place for your work\".. it is bcoz the places are not guaranteed.. that is a critical point.