Opinions of the Primary School Registration System
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Deity:
I had alrdy secured my child, the school of my choice. I'm just worrying and pity for those disappointed parents. Nothing is fair in this world, even myself was just lucky to be a former student of that school. So let's hope watever it is, watever colour of IC ones is holding, let's pledge and serve Singapore, your truly and only country!
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Deity:
I had alrdy secured my child, the school of my choice. I'm just worrying and pity for those disappointed parents. Nothing is fair in this world, even myself was just lucky to be a former student of that school. So let's hope watever it is, watever colour of IC ones is holding, let's pledge and serve Singapore, your truly and only country!
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Champion:
Absolutely agree!!!! :goodpost:Deity:
I had alrdy secured my child, the school of my choice. I'm just worrying and pity for those disappointed parents. Nothing is fair in this world, even myself was just lucky to be a former student of that school. So let's hope watever it is, watever colour of IC ones is holding, let's pledge and serve Singapore, your truly and only country!
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xavierine_angel:
i'm going for ballot next week for yew tee pri sch... all applicants within 1 km, 99 citizens & 25 spr with 117 vacancies.. wish me luck.. :<
wishing you success ...
fellow YT resident, but opting for DLS
dunno what the composition of the 89 balloting is ... hoping more PRs though
didn't expect to see 3 of 4 schools in Yew Tee all <1km balloting in Phase2C -
benten2011:
Yes that is true that our descendents and granparents were all foreigners. However they and we build these nation from scratch. There was a time where nobody even knew where Singapore was. And today all that hardwork of our descendents is being questioned. That is sad. Back then our grandparents came here with nothing and built it all up. Today we are seeing the same foreigners coming in as cash rich and competing with the local singaporean for space in schools which should be the first right of the 'son of the soil'. How do we singaporeans compete with the cash rich foreigner who comes in, gets a PR and is able to afford to buy a multimillion dollar home around ACS simly to get that priority at school? Our migrant forefathers did not do that. anyway im just a simple person who is concerned about our kids education. that's all. :rahrah:Khordan:
I think it's disappointing that in a forum I had previously thought to be full of rational people is letting this wave of xenophobia run rampant.
Before we continue with this railing and chest-beating about PRs & FTs, don't forget that ALL of us are recent descendents of FTs; our grandparents (or in some cases, great-grandparents) were FTs. Some of our best known and most sought-after schools were built by FTs for FTs.
As for the consternation about the various phases and whether it is right or not, we are just going around in circles. There is no way you are going to convince alumni they are not entitled to their priority. Similarly, clan members, christians, buddhists, and grassroot leaders and PVs all believe they are entitled to that priority (just like many seem to believe they are entitled to more priority just for being Singaporean). Some suggest that distance from home should be the only criteria for determining priority. Personally, I think that's the worst criteria. Of all the criteria in use today, it's the only one that can be solved by money.
Finally, rather than expect a system that can be fair to the 40,000+ kids who are registering each year (I have news for you, there will never be a system that can be fair to all), I do have respect for those who just quietly go and do what needs to be done to 'game' the system; create chances for themselves in earlier phases through PV, or other routes. Perhaps that's why many consider the new immigrants such a threat. Unlike many Singaporeans who just sit back, complain and expect the Government to fix it for them, these PRs & FTs just go and do what's needed and get what they need. I guarantee you that no matter how you 'stack' the odds against them, they will work out a way to game the system and get the child into the school of their choice.
`Son of the soil'. This is the very argument that the founding fathers of Singapore were against. Be it in housing or education, the nation should never be xenophobic. So who are the `son of the soil' in America? Perhaps a more equitable way would be to strive to make all schools equal. All schools offer GEP or all instituitions offer IP. Then everything is level play. No incentives to rent an expensive apartment next to popular schools anymore. -
pocoyo05:
Perhaps a more equitable way would be to strive to make all schools equal. All schools offer GEP or all instituitions offer IP. Then everything is level play. No incentives to rent an expensive apartment next to popular schools anymore.
hm...since distance is not so much of a concern if popular schools are involved, maybe MOE should open a big campus for the popular schools (think ITE/Polytechnic-scaled institutions) and have 1 school for each constituency! Then can have combined resources for CCAs and other teaching/enrichment resources. lolz. -
Khordan:
just out of curiosity, are you involved in the current registration exercise, and if so, which phase were/are you at ?I think it's disappointing that in a forum I had previously thought to be full of rational people is letting this wave of xenophobia run rampant.
Before we continue with this railing and chest-beating about PRs & FTs, don't forget that ALL of us are recent descendents of FTs; our grandparents (or in some cases, great-grandparents) were FTs. Some of our best known and most sought-after schools were built by FTs for FTs.
As for the consternation about the various phases and whether it is right or not, we are just going around in circles. There is no way you are going to convince alumni they are not entitled to their priority. Similarly, clan members, christians, buddhists, and grassroot leaders and PVs all believe they are entitled to that priority (just like many seem to believe they are entitled to more priority just for being Singaporean). Some suggest that distance from home should be the only criteria for determining priority. Personally, I think that's the worst criteria. Of all the criteria in use today, it's the only one that can be solved by money.
Finally, rather than expect a system that can be fair to the 40,000+ kids who are registering each year (I have news for you, there will never be a system that can be fair to all), I do have respect for those who just quietly go and do what needs to be done to 'game' the system; create chances for themselves in earlier phases through PV, or other routes. Perhaps that's why many consider the new immigrants such a threat. Unlike many Singaporeans who just sit back, complain and expect the Government to fix it for them, these PRs & FTs just go and do what's needed and get what they need. I guarantee you that no matter how you 'stack' the odds against them, they will work out a way to game the system and get the child into the school of their choice.
we look to the gahment to fix this ... bcos they are the very ones to put us into this situation in the first place !!!
\"PRs & FTs just go and do what's needed and get what they need. I guarantee you that no matter how you 'stack' the odds against them, they will work out a way to game the system and get the child into the school of their choice.\"
when seeking greener pastures, what is the point of being contented with just getting to your destination ...
of cos you will see them going all out, doing PVs at 3 top schools if need be ...
are they truly here bcos they wanna settled down and make Singapore their home ... or are most of them here to milk whatever it is out there
i cite an example, a story sometime ago i heard of a filthy rich China PR ... already own a few properties here in SG ...
his agent asked why are you still looking to buy a HDB flat
answer : there's $$ to be made, why even give someone else that opportunity to make that money (surely seems kachang kuteh amount to one so rich)
as for forefathers being FT once themselves, they came here with nothing ... and set up their families here ... we are their legacy
can we say the same of the majority of the PRs that are living amongst us now ?
how many will indeed eventually take up citizenship ? and how many will turn tails and balek kumpung ... or move on to the next greener pasture ?
we Singaporeans, sure for some there's the option of migrating ... but for most, this is our country where we were born and raised ... where our families and friends are ... where our history and possibly our legacy will remain -
What happen to the go getting spirit of Singaporeans? When someone does PV at 3 schools, i admire them for their persistence - nothing to do with nationality. Everyone competes on equal footing what.
There will always be the rich who try to make money - many Sporeans do that buy HDB and private until govt had to step in to prevent dual ownership of private n HDB. -
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Jas007:
just out of curiosity, are you involved in the current registration exercise, and if so, which phase were/are you at ?
we look to the gahment to fix this ... bcos they are the very ones to put us into this situation in the first place !!!
\"PRs & FTs just go and do what's needed and get what they need. I guarantee you that no matter how you 'stack' the odds against them, they will work out a way to game the system and get the child into the school of their choice.\"
when seeking greener pastures, what is the point of being contented with just getting to your destination ...
of cos you will see them going all out, doing PVs at 3 top schools if need be ...
are they truly here bcos they wanna settled down and make Singapore their home ... or are most of them here to milk whatever it is out there
i cite an example, a story sometime ago i heard of a filthy rich China PR ... already own a few properties here in SG ...
his agent asked why are you still looking to buy a HDB flat
answer : there's $$ to be made, why even give someone else that opportunity to make that money (surely seems kachang kuteh amount to one so rich)
as for forefathers being FT once themselves, they came here with nothing ... and set up their families here ... we are their legacy
can we say the same of the majority of the PRs that are living amongst us now ?
how many will indeed eventually take up citizenship ? and how many will turn tails and balek kumpung ... or move on to the next greener pasture ?
we Singaporeans, sure for some there's the option of migrating ... but for most, this is our country where we were born and raised ... where our families and friends are ... where our history and possibly our legacy will remain -
Khordan:
I think it's disappointing that in a forum I had previously thought to be full of rational people is letting this wave of xenophobia run rampant.
Before we continue with this railing and chest-beating about PRs & FTs, don't forget that ALL of us are recent descendents of FTs; our grandparents (or in some cases, great-grandparents) were FTs. Some of our best known and most sought-after schools were built by FTs for FTs.
As for the consternation about the various phases and whether it is right or not, we are just going around in circles. There is no way you are going to convince alumni they are not entitled to their priority. Similarly, clan members, christians, buddhists, and grassroot leaders and PVs all believe they are entitled to that priority (just like many seem to believe they are entitled to more priority just for being Singaporean). Some suggest that distance from home should be the only criteria for determining priority. Personally, I think that's the worst criteria. Of all the criteria in use today, it's the only one that can be solved by money.
Finally, rather than expect a system that can be fair to the 40,000+ kids who are registering each year (I have news for you, there will never be a system that can be fair to all), I do have respect for those who just quietly go and do what needs to be done to 'game' the system; create chances for themselves in earlier phases through PV, or other routes. Perhaps that's why many consider the new immigrants such a threat. Unlike many Singaporeans who just sit back, complain and expect the Government to fix it for them, these PRs & FTs just go and do what's needed and get what they need. I guarantee you that no matter how you 'stack' the odds against them, they will work out a way to game the system and get the child into the school of their choice.
Yes, our grandparents were indeed FT who came to Singapore. The BIG difference was that our grandparents came to Singapore, with all intentions to set up their homes here, and be rooted here in Singapore, and NOT just reaping off the benefits, and hoping to go elsewhere better, some years down the road.
It's the lack of commitment and love for Singapore, shown by some PRs, only to cash in on our systems and schemes to their fullest benefit. That's the sickening part....
Just came back from the NDP Preview, and was watching it with very mixed feelings, at this place which we called home. If the PRs could truly embrace Singapore and our culture, then take up citizenship and serve NS, like a true blue proud Singaporean! Defend your home country and serve your fellow Singaporeans! What are these PRs waiting for???
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