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    Singapore vs. Hong Kong: Which Is More Expensive?

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      WeiHan
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      3Boys:

      Exactly, it is but one expat's view. You poll another 50 and if you have a majority saying the same thing, perhaps you are on to something. One opinion? Take with a pinch of salt. Also, when folk are living somewhere on expat terms, their expectations are different from those living there as a home. Perhaps they prefer a little more zest, something different from home.

      Singapore is clean and scrubbed not for the benefit of the expats, but for those who make this our home, and I much prefer it this way.
      By being \"scrubbed\" everywhere, we meant the government has a tight regulation and protocol in every single small area and issue. In my opinion, this has a tight, stifling effect that prevents seeing minority issues because these issues are simply in the blind spot of the tight regulated system. It does not allows room for wriggling. Such a system is usually too rigid and can't evolve on its own in response to changes.

      We are speaking from our own experience. Both of us know each other because of a minority eye condition. There is a surgical cure that carries some minor risk. However, no eye surgeon in Singapore is willing to perform the surgery for the condition. In contrast, there is one top surgeon in Hong Kong who is very receptive with the surgery. We were asking why? The reason we got is that the medical community in Singapore is tight regulated and there isn't room for flexibility. This is just one real example of a situation that we face.

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        3Boys
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        WeiHan:
        3Boys:


        Exactly, it is but one expat's view. You poll another 50 and if you have a majority saying the same thing, perhaps you are on to something. One opinion? Take with a pinch of salt. Also, when folk are living somewhere on expat terms, their expectations are different from those living there as a home. Perhaps they prefer a little more zest, something different from home.

        Singapore is clean and scrubbed not for the benefit of the expats, but for those who make this our home, and I much prefer it this way.

        By being \"scrubbed\" everywhere, we meant the government has a tight regulation and protocol in every single small area and issue. In my opinion, this has a tight, stifling effect that prevents seeing minority issues because these issues are simply in the blind spot of the tight regulated system. It does not allows room for wriggling. Such a system is usually too rigid and can't evolve on its own in response to changes.

        We are speaking from our own experience. Both of us know each other because of a minority eye condition. There is a surgical cure that carries some minor risk. However, no eye surgeon in Singapore is willing to perform the surgery for the condition. In contrast, there is one top surgeon in Hong Kong who is very receptive with the surgery. We were asking why? The reason we got is that the medical community in Singapore is tight regulated and there isn't room for flexibility. This is just one real example of a situation that we face.

        Sorry, I know something about this field, and it has nothing to do with how tightly MOH regulates the docs here, compared with Hong Kong. Loose regualtion has its downside too, that is the unseen consequence.

        Drop me a note about this eye condition, I know a few eye surgeons I can send you to.

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          crystalskyes
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          Singapore is without soul.

          Though I dont get out much, I know that other people in other countries have a damn life as compared to Singapore. Most Singaporeans are simply cooped up in their narrow perspective of life and dont bother to look over what other people elsewhere are doing.

          Let’s just take the Education system for example. My sec school (cannot be named) gets PRC students that are the cream of the crop and drop them in our classrooms. As you would imagine, this is much to our dismay. Academically speaking, they are whooping our @ss.
          I resent that the stupid MOE decided to demoralize us in such a backstabbing manner.
          "Very good" for cultivating nation pride. Pffft.

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            3Boys
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            crystalskyes:


            Let's just take the Education system for example. My sec school (cannot be named) gets PRC students that are the cream of the crop and drop them in our classrooms. As you would imagine, this is much to our dismay. Academically speaking, they are whooping our @ss.
            I resent that the stupid MOE decided to demoralize us in such a backstabbing manner.
            \"Very good\" for cultivating nation pride. Pffft.
            So, you prefer to get your @ss kicked now, whilst you have time to make the adjustments, or you prefer your @ss to be kicked in the workplace, where there will be no mercy?

            Only the truth yes? Nothing cooler than that....

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              crystalskyes
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              Hey GrandMaster, what do you know about how the education system is like?

              I strongly believe that it is the education system's extremely flawed nature is why
              all of us are not excelling. If I am wrong, explain to me why Singapore has a flourishing tuition industry? 🙂
              I mean, it the schools' teachers are so damn awesome, why need to bother with tuition?
              Unless the teachers are so damn pathetic, why is there a need to fork 200-400 a month on a subject?
              Don't go and protect PAP @ss for this. This is the blatant truth.
              No report card is better than this. Common sense says so.

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                crystalskyes
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                Besides, flooding Singapore with foreign trash hardly helped to decrease something called INFLATION. Many Singaporeans are feeling the pinch. I thankfully ain't one of them. 😄

                The government's efforts are hardly enough to meet their needs.
                Nevertheless, I feel that this kind of treatment to a country's citizens is a total outrage.

                PAP is ignorant of so many frustrations Singaporeans face with their policies. For e.g. They allowed SMRT to become private. I think that was one major mistake since transport is a necessity for people to go to work and back. Look at what SMRT did! They raised fares DESPITE getting profits. Greed holds no boundaries.

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                  Musings
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                  The fact that we r a tuition nation does not mean educational systsm is flawed or schools are lousy. Its being KS and also many send their kids for tuition to make the kids revise or just keep them occupied and not becos they need help.


                  Havent u read in papers that Hong Kong is also a tuition nation with tutors earning millions? Same for Taiwan, Korea and increasingly so China.
                  Does it mean all these countries’ schools are lousy? No it is the Asian obsession with acheiving stellar academic results. Amy Chua’s book recounts how Asians behave this way even in the US.

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                    WeiHan
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                    Our education system isn’t flawed in that sense. See our students performance in many international competitions? Third in Mathematical Olympiad this year. With such stellar performance, how can you say that it is flawed?

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                      crystalskyes
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                      I have to bring in PAP as any major issues in Singapore are either directly or indirectly caused by them. Whether they are aware of it is another matter.


                      I think tuition is a government tactic to kill 2 birds with one stone.
                      1) Make students work harder and perhaps become academically better performers
                      2) Create employment. 😄 [Did that ever cross your mind?]
                      However, I don't find it an ethical choice to make. Perhaps it was accidental with the culmination of 1. high human influx = too many people for too little jobs and 2. Low quality teachers in public school.
                      I simply had to say this as it is a theory that I have come up with that makes A LOT of sense. However sick/twisted it may be, the logic is there.

                      I would love to hear any arguments against me. I will do my best to prove my points.
                      ^_^ Debating online has helped me in my grasp of English. I don't think many students do that hence they are too inept to do argumentative essays. They prefer narratives as they are supposedly easier to write. They are so....shallow and linear.

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                        3Boys
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                        Hard to put up rational arguments against paranoid musings. Don’t let the stress of ‘O’ levels get to you. We’ve all been there before and we have a better grasp of reality than you think. After all, we are the ones paying for the tuition.

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