Singapore vs. Hong Kong: Which Is More Expensive?
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Besides, flooding Singapore with foreign trash hardly helped to decrease something called INFLATION. Many Singaporeans are feeling the pinch. I thankfully ain't one of them.

The government's efforts are hardly enough to meet their needs.
Nevertheless, I feel that this kind of treatment to a country's citizens is a total outrage.
PAP is ignorant of so many frustrations Singaporeans face with their policies. For e.g. They allowed SMRT to become private. I think that was one major mistake since transport is a necessity for people to go to work and back. Look at what SMRT did! They raised fares DESPITE getting profits. Greed holds no boundaries. -
The fact that we r a tuition nation does not mean educational systsm is flawed or schools are lousy. Its being KS and also many send their kids for tuition to make the kids revise or just keep them occupied and not becos they need help.
Havent u read in papers that Hong Kong is also a tuition nation with tutors earning millions? Same for Taiwan, Korea and increasingly so China.
Does it mean all these countries’ schools are lousy? No it is the Asian obsession with acheiving stellar academic results. Amy Chua’s book recounts how Asians behave this way even in the US. -
Our education system isn’t flawed in that sense. See our students performance in many international competitions? Third in Mathematical Olympiad this year. With such stellar performance, how can you say that it is flawed?
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I have to bring in PAP as any major issues in Singapore are either directly or indirectly caused by them. Whether they are aware of it is another matter.
I think tuition is a government tactic to kill 2 birds with one stone.
1) Make students work harder and perhaps become academically better performers
2) Create employment.
[Did that ever cross your mind?]
However, I don't find it an ethical choice to make. Perhaps it was accidental with the culmination of 1. high human influx = too many people for too little jobs and 2. Low quality teachers in public school.
I simply had to say this as it is a theory that I have come up with that makes A LOT of sense. However sick/twisted it may be, the logic is there.
I would love to hear any arguments against me. I will do my best to prove my points.
^_^ Debating online has helped me in my grasp of English. I don't think many students do that hence they are too inept to do argumentative essays. They prefer narratives as they are supposedly easier to write. They are so....shallow and linear. -
Hard to put up rational arguments against paranoid musings. Don’t let the stress of ‘O’ levels get to you. We’ve all been there before and we have a better grasp of reality than you think. After all, we are the ones paying for the tuition.
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3Boys:
Hard to put up rational arguments against paranoid musings. Don't let the stress of 'O' levels get to you. We've all been there before and we have a better grasp of reality than you think. After all, we are the ones paying for the tuition.
Good one 3 boys :salute:
Crystalskyes - 3 boys and myself has been there done that....
we build up the nation- the nation is 46 this year - we call home for people like you to play and live in a cool clean healthy place,
it definitely not there yet the perfect nirvana but it people like you
that need to pull along your fellow diehard sonic stamina know what is best to be done to make it work in stellar condition.
Want to take that challenge :nunchuk:
Faith without Work is dead
translated to Just talk without working the ground is also
not getting us anywhere :celebrate:
Maybe you have already done that then i :salute: you. -
if you don’t want tuition, then stop it
if you don’t want to be kiasu, don’t be one
there is no success without hardwork (in whatever names anyone wants to call it) -
verykiasu2010:
:hi5: I alway tell DS this
there is no success without hardwork (in whatever names anyone wants to call it) -
LOL mum, not sure how long and when you've lived in HK to have a more negative impression towards HK. As an overseas Singaporean of more than 10 years in HK, from the time I landed there for work, finding everything's more expensive than Singapore when S$1=HK$4, to pregnancy, giving birth, raising kid and going through the school interviews and behaving like Hkonger, I must say I've been there and done that enough to offer a different view of HK.
Today, Singapore's cost of living has somewhat surpassed HK. S$1=HK$6+; Average home prices (rent or sale) are almost in par and newer condo units are becoming more like HK. Go check out Iridium at Novena and you'll know what I mean.
I find HK alot more attractive than Singapore. WeiHan's expat counterpart is right about HK's natural beauty inside out - places, people, voices (freedom of speech) and transparency (consumer rights/political scene). I must say HK offers greater living / life experience. One could really comprehend what real life is all about here (I mean HK). That's why people tend to say HK folks are more street smart than us (simply 日行千里路胜读万卷书)。
Leisure
Parks, mountains, beaches, outlying islands may seem so far but yet so close to you thanks to its highly efficient transportation system (but they never claim they are world class). Actually, these places are like the rim of a big bowl with city in the middle. There are clearly marked-out and well maintained trails / parks that link up the mountains (& reservoirs) or close-loop island trails that make great hikings during good days esp Autumn. The scenery is just so awesome from a height (not necessarily peak). Sea waters are clear and beaches are clean though some popular ones tend to be overcrowded on weekends/holidays during summer. But if you know how to get away to some best kept secrets, they make a great tranquil outing for family and friends. On a good winter, we would be hunting down farms for strawberries and outdoor BBQ. Of course, you will be spoilt for choices / bargains in the shopping and food paradise all year round.
Materialism / school
Because of the \"mind your own business\" mentality in HK, you never have to feel out of place in a posh place as long as you are neat and tidy, not necessarily expensive. Just early this year, I brought my son to an interview by a renowned international school for his primary year entry on a weekday. Some HK tais tais dressed themselves and their children up like going for a ballroom party, I went straight from my workplace with a computer bag and my son who's also straight from school on his PE attire with dirty white shoes (got outdoor PE that day). Gweilos' children also on school uniform. We also met a well known celeb wearing T-shirt and jeans. No one flashed out CVs, enrichment certs or whatsoever. We just be our natural self. My son made it to the school. Who cares about dirty shoes or ballroom attire. It tells \"competition\" is what parents made up of, not the schools. On the note about the CVs and certs, this is only limited to local schools under Direct Admission Scheme (again, driven by parent's competition trying to impress school). I am certain our Singapore parents will do likewise if our local schools would one day turn into allotment by interview only. Don't Singapore parents also invest $$$$ on enrichment classes for their kids these days? PV to get into top schools? By the way, Singapore's international school fees and application fees are a lot higher than HK's.
Snob ($$$$ face??)
On 2 occasions back in SG recently, I have been very annoyed by those \"how lian\" Singaporeans raising their voices - EXCUSE ME!!! - to get people (that's me) out of their way from a wide walkway impatiently in an upscale supermarket and airline lounge. I spared no chance to shut them out. From their dressings one could tell they are just middle-class. In HK, any affluent persons will never behave like this simply because they know how to carry themselves well in the public place. The only time you hear folks saying this (唔该) in HK is trying to leave the crowded lift or MTR cabin, in a well-controlled tone. You see the difference?
By the way, Singapore still has its many positive and innocent sides to pull me back, where chicken rice is still chicken rice. :celebrate:
Hope my personal experience provides yet another perspective of HK. -
verykiasu2010:
With a class size of 40 to 1 teacher, how can one not tuition unless you are super-disciplined or a genius (97% of the percentile)?? Yes- been forced into a variety of tuitions just to score well on paper. But most of you would agree with me that we actually learn more from work encounters. Our command of english and chinese improved thanks to foreign talents or tiongkok 同志...I have also returned all my A-math equations, chemistry, biology & etc back to my teachers. Employers are more interested in our prior work accomplishments during job interviews than our PSLE/GCE scores...that's why some foreign HR gurus said we only use our academic paper once - to get into the job market as a fresh grad. Thereafter it's all about your job performance and achievements. :boogie:if you don't want tuition, then stop it
if you don't want to be kiasu, don't be one
there is no success without hardwork (in whatever names anyone wants to call it)
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