Foreign Workers

[limlim]

verykiasu2010:

markfch:

[quote=\"verykiasu2010\"]
my real life experience : got a SG citizen for the post of FC - he was very scheming, late for work, make false claims on expenses etc etc.....fed up - got a PR in at half the price, very hard working & trust worthy - he got promoted to my position after my promotion

You are a brave man, vk2010; to say things that others don't like to hear.

So now you're promoted to CFO, COO, CIO or CEO?

the truth is grim[/quote]The \"truth\"? based on one isolated example?

I also want to add another truth.. Many SG male citizens below 40yo ALWAYs absent from work/office for ~2 week every year! And it is not due to Annual leave. Very bad for business right? So, let's get PRs/FT so that biz can run with minimum disruptions..

[verykiasu2010]

limlim:

verykiasu2010:

the truth is grim

The \"truth\"? based on one isolated example?

I also want to add another truth.. Many SG male citizens below 40yo ALWAYs absent from work/office for ~2 week every year! And it is not due to Annual leave. Very bad for business right? So, let's get PRs/FT so that biz can run with minimum disruptions..

I have no problem with employees having to do reservist, it is part and parcel of business. Dishonesty in work / conduct is something cannot be tolerated. One isolated case ? $4k per month finance assistant position (below manager rank) in Jurong, 5 day week, no OT, factory transport aircon coach provided : singaporean prefers to work in town. Malaysian need only S$2k to take the job. I once ran a finance dept of 100 staff, global group employment 15,000, these are the problems we face in Jurong. For every position we advertise, 10 are from citizens, 500 are from non-citizens

this is :offtopic: :offtopic: but the fact is that many citizens would deny that they are picky about jobs and locations :siam:

[limlim]

verykiasu2010:

$4k per month finance assistant position (below manager rank) in Jurong, 5 day week, no OT, factory transport aircon coach provided

Sounds quite good leh..

Don't know why, companies always complain that no Singaporeans want to take the jobs or they are too picky, but based on the salaries, benefits given, like so good leh.. I would want to take the job, and I know many of the pple around me would want to take the job, but.. would the company employ us??

Those that the companies want, doesn't want the job, but those that want the job, the companies doesn't want.. Essentially, a mis-match of expectations? Is it fair to just say that Singaporeans are choosy? For every 10 Singaporeans that reject a $4k job, I believe, 1000 Singaporeans wants the job badly..

$4k is so much higher than many engineering/technical jobs requiring a degree!

ok.. OT too much.. but just find it difficult to accept/understand why those pple reject the $4k job..

[verykiasu2010]

limlim:

verykiasu2010:

$4k per month finance assistant position (below manager rank) in Jurong, 5 day week, no OT, factory transport aircon coach provided

Sounds quite good leh..

Don't know why, companies always complain that no Singaporeans want to take the jobs or they are too picky, but based on the salaries, benefits given, like so good leh.. I would want to take the job, and I know many of the pple around me would want to take the job, but.. would the company employ us??

Those that the companies want, doesn't want the job, but those that want the job, the companies doesn't want.. Essentially, a mis-match of expectations? Is it fair to just say that Singaporeans are choosy? For every 10 Singaporeans that reject a $4k job, I believe, 1000 Singaporeans wants the job badly..

$4k is so much higher than many engineering/technical jobs requiring a degree!

ok.. OT too much.. but just find it difficult to accept/understand why those pple reject the $4k job..

:offtopic: :offtopic: for the last final time here. Companies facing all these issues are real...the ASME had another meeting with MOM as just reported today..

we want a vibrant and growing economy - there will be areas of work the locals would avoid .... but to my previous case, we were not choosy, we have accounts staff ranging from age 18 to 85 .... for those above 55, we don't cut their pay hor ....

[cmyesther]

verykiasu2010:

limlim:

[quote=\"verykiasu2010\"]
$4k per month finance assistant position (below manager rank) in Jurong, 5 day week, no OT, factory transport aircon coach provided

Sounds quite good leh..

Don't know why, companies always complain that no Singaporeans want to take the jobs or they are too picky, but based on the salaries, benefits given, like so good leh.. I would want to take the job, and I know many of the pple around me would want to take the job, but.. would the company employ us??

Those that the companies want, doesn't want the job, but those that want the job, the companies doesn't want.. Essentially, a mis-match of expectations? Is it fair to just say that Singaporeans are choosy? For every 10 Singaporeans that reject a $4k job, I believe, 1000 Singaporeans wants the job badly..

$4k is so much higher than many engineering/technical jobs requiring a degree!

ok.. OT too much.. but just find it difficult to accept/understand why those pple reject the $4k job..

:offtopic: :offtopic: for the last final time here. Companies facing all these issues are real...the ASME had another meeting with MOM as just reported today..

we want a vibrant and growing economy - there will be areas of work the locals would avoid .... but to my previous case, we were not choosy, we have accounts staff ranging from age 18 to 85 .... for those above 55, we don't cut their pay hor ....[/quote]
I can understand your frustration. Sometimes it is not the issue. It is human behavior. My company facing the same problem as well. Give A, they will asked B. If other company is givng C they will complain why we never provide C benefits and they never compared the other company don't provide A and B!!!! :siam:

[LOLMum]

:offtopic:


someone i know has been trying to hire security guards to work at tuas/jurong for a few months.

applicants immediately said no and want to work near their home, city and even list down the type of working places they want like office building, schools are at the top of the lists.

so this person has to reject jobs because he has no manpower.

[Jav]

Hello, OT OT OT! Moderator, pls direct

[tankee]

another OT, right after the previous.


seems like no one want to discuss about the actual topic anymore

[1amber]

Sian liao

[dorisp]

limlim:

Japanese, American, German, Swiss and Singapore firms are employing PRCs, Pinoys, Indians, Thais.. And for PMETs positions.. that is what many locals are not happy about.

Should we wonder why and work to improve the situation rather than being unhappy........