I Can Read - Discussion
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icedlemontea:
I have the same problem. For instance, how do we tell apart 'pet' and 'pat' (same sound but different spelling) and 'peg' and 'leg' (same ending letters 'eg' but different sounding)?Hihi
My ds is in ICR level for past 2 terms. Can I check with fellow mummies here how do u coach your child with the spelling test every week?
I tried the phonetic way but there are some words with the same sound but different spelling. I am no phonics expert.. I do find diifculties in coaching my ds in this aspect.
Any advise?
I am starting to think phonics is overrated. In the past, don't we all learn to read somehow without first learning phonics? -
notabox:
Hi,
I have the same problem. For instance, how do we tell apart 'pet' and 'pat' (same sound but different spelling) and 'peg' and 'leg' (same ending letters 'eg' but different sounding)?
I am starting to think phonics is overrated. In the past, don't we all learn to read somehow without first learning phonics?
In the older time, we really don't learn to read with phonics. But I think that it is still consider quite effective for children. The objective for ICR is teach children to read with phonics. They does not emphasis on spelling as per my understanding with my gal. As a parent, we can do it is to go through with them the vowels and decode the words.
Yet, some phonics training might not be so effective on all children. -
notabox:
I have checked with the teacher, she says at their age they just have to use abit of memory.. until they are familiar with the words they will naturally use the correct spelling. I am quite reluctant to have him copy the word 5 or 10 times and I think my ds will dread it too.
I have the same problem. For instance, how do we tell apart 'pet' and 'pat' (same sound but different spelling) and 'peg' and 'leg' (same ending letters 'eg' but different sounding)?icedlemontea:
Hihi
My ds is in ICR level for past 2 terms. Can I check with fellow mummies here how do u coach your child with the spelling test every week?
I tried the phonetic way but there are some words with the same sound but different spelling. I am no phonics expert.. I do find diifculties in coaching my ds in this aspect.
Any advise?
I am starting to think phonics is overrated. In the past, don't we all learn to read somehow without first learning phonics?
In the past, we decode it ourselves. Hahaha -
Hi
DD is now K1 and attending 3rd term of I Can Read course. She’s learning abbreviation, punctuations,grammar, etc. She shows some frustration when doing the homework as it seems that she doesn’t really understand what was required (Qns. on abbreviation, punctuations) and needs our help in doing the homework. From the PTM, I understand that the teacher doesn’t really focus on K1 students in the class but more on K2 and P1, as he views that K1 is rather young/early to attend this course. In fact, he suggested that if the K1 can’t cope, we can always pull them out and re-join when they are ready for it.
Does anyone’s kid also attending I Can Read course at 5yo, too? Is your kid able to cope? Do you find that it’s rather an advance course for 5yo kid? -
I do hv some unpleasant experience too…When my son was doing ICR last yr, his teacher thought tat he was younger than his age as my ds is small in size, thus she only focus on those who’s K2/P1… Whenever I check with her my ds progress she sounds assuring tat my ds is doing well even though I feedback to her tat he cannot read n dun understand those grammar n punctuations etc…FYI my ds scores full mark for all the spellings in every lesson, each lesson she gave abt 15 to 20 words
worst came during the last 3rd lesson, she started to tell me my ds cannot read cannot follow what she is teaching in class n she wanted me to bring him for extra lessons so tat he can progress to the next level, creative writing…
During the last lesson, she said everybody will be given a test paper which was format like what P1 are doing, MCQ, fill in the blanks and spell some vocabulary…i told her my ds doesn’t hv any exposure to this kind of test yet but she assure me tat he can do it…in the end, my ds could not do at all and was crying but she din even bother to come out of the class to inform me (I was waiting outside the classroom)
Just b4 the class ended I went to "peep" n saw tat she was discussing n explaining to the other kids while my ds was left crying alone at a corner…
Once she open the door, my ds burst out crying loudly n i heard a boy shouting to me "teacher said he no good"…but she juz ignored n keep saying he totally cannot do while the others are good, but u know what, the other kids oso failed the test, I saw the results, less than 50% she still say good…
From what I understand from the other kids mothers, they told me they hv sent their kids for P1 preparation course n oso reinforce with teaching at home…so tat explains why their kids knows how to do lor…my poor ds hv never seen a testpaper in his life n doesn’t know how to attempt it…
I reassured my ds tat it is not tat he is ‘no good’…my ds was still sobbing keeps saying the teacher say tat he ‘no good’ to him when he cannot do the test paper, my ds again relate to me, imagine how it has affected my ds’ confident, he thought tat he is really no good…when I heard tat I almost cry… -
Juz to add on, I m sharing bcos I wanna highlight to parents tat even though ICR is a very good programme, parents hv to take note to reinforce what was taught in class, keep reading…the contents taught are really intensive…
For me I m not a phonetic expert as well…till date, I m still struggling with coaching…My ds is in K2 this yr n doing creative writing now…
For this level he has changed 3 teachers already, all was changed due 1st angmoh teacher going back to her hometown…
2nd was a temp local teacher which I think she is the best cos she guides the kids in her class how to write and make them do a draft b4 transferring it to ex. bk…tat’s part of homework besides the usual spelling words they hv to learn n make into a sentence…
I think this way is good, parents dun hv to be stress as to how to teach our kid how to write plus we of course wouldn’t know what the teacher’s expectations u see…
I always believe teachers hv to at least brief the kids what they must do for their homeworks so that they know what to do…
Currently my ds is with the 3rd teacher for a few lessons, I m still monitoring his progress, this level is indeed more intensive…those words are so "chim"… -
Hi Chickenlittle
Thanks for sharing. It’s indeed a bad experience your ds had. May I know which branch your ds is with?
I agreed that ICR is a very good course but very intensive & require a lot of involvements from parents at home especially if the kid is just K1. Before letting dd progress to ICR, I was advised that the course was more for K2 and above. At that time, I just wanted to let dd to give it a try since she’s promoted from PRP. She liked the teacher a lot and I think this makes her keep going. I am impressed that she is able to read 80-90% of the story books now.
But now, the difficulty level goes up higher and the focus of the teacher is more on K2/P1 students. dd has showed frustration after 2nd lesson of 3rd term. Is it still worth to let dd continue or should we pull her out & let her rejoin when she’s K2? How did your boy cope when he’s at 2nd half of ICR? -
My ds din show any difficulty n he enjoys going to class even though his teacher ignored his presence, this I only got to know after the unhappy incident happens during the last lesson, at home, I ask my son how teacher treats him normally during lesson time etc…
Omg…I never felt so lousy b4…i should hv be more observant…cos I thought all along he was doing fine in class…
Nevermind abt it now…it’s in the past, we shall forgive n forget…take it as a lesson learnt…
Wat I feel is in ICR, there is a mixture of students in different levels ranging from K1 to P1, normally teacher try to focus more at those P1 so tat they can promote faster to creative writing, they do not need to do the whole 1 yr course since they already know most of the stuffs…
And for the K2…teacher oso focus more cos they’re going to P1 the next yr so ‘time is running out’…
No wonder last yr, whenever I shared with teacher abt my ds not reading well etc, she juz brush me off n tells me it’s ok, he still young etc…now I knows wat she meant…
As for ur dd, does she understand n knows what the teacher is talking abt?..what kind of frustrations does she hv, does she dread going to class or does she refused to do her homework?.. -
chickenlittle:
As for ur dd, does she understand n knows what the teacher is talking abt?...what kind of frustrations does she hv, does she dread going to class or does she refused to do her homework?...
I don't think my dd understands 100% of what the teacher is talking about as we seldom speak english at home and her level of understanding is not quite good, though she can read 80-90% of the books.
She is willing to take out her homework and enjoys doing it. When I asked her which homework she wanted to complete first, she would tell me, \"ICR!\" So far, she enjoyed her lessons a lot. Only until today when she's working on Abbreviation and punctuations, she shows some unwillingness and frustration. When I went through the work with her, I realised that she didn't understand when those punctuations were needed and what abbreviation was. Then, I started to recall what teacher told us during PTM (about focusing on K2/P1 students). Maybe the teacher didn't really pay attention if K1 can follow the pace of the class.... -
I think u hv to speak to her teacher to let him/her knows tat ur dd dun understand…maybe u’ll hv better idea what happens in the class…from there u can seek her teacher’s advise as to how can u work along with the teacher as to how to guide her at home…hope it helps…
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