5.18M of population. Good or bad?

[david59]

Talking about ill-treatment of workers, esp. by underpaying staffs and poor benefits to maximum profit really annoyed me. :mad:

My apology for getting personal. I deserve the yellow card. Sorry :imsorry:

[Nebbermind]

verykiasu2010:

:rotflmao: :rotflmao: get ready some red card !!

Think sometimes the timing of our tackles are just OFF!! Noone deserves a REDCARD here lah!!

[verykiasu2010]

Nebbermind:

verykiasu2010:

:rotflmao: :rotflmao: get ready some red card !!

Think sometimes the timing of our tackles are just OFF!! Noone deserves a REDCARD here lah!!

haha, nebbermind

[limlim]

verykiasu2010:

limlim:

Earlier, when I mentioned $200mil with reference to general biz, you asked which nursing home got $200mil profit.

Then when I used NKF as general example of charity, you questioned since when NKF is nursing home.

since when did i mention about $200m PROFIT for nursing home ? you couldn't even read my post properly and jump to conclusion ..... tsk tsk

Was referring to the below.

I mentioned an example of biz making $200mil PROFIT and still wanna raise fares, reflecting their greed.

Then you questioned since when is there $200mil for nursing home (which seems to suggest that my example was referring to nursing homes, which it is not)

hence, I clarified later that the comment is directed at some biz, and not the nursing home.

verykiasu2010:

limlim:

[quote=\"verykiasu2010\"]
it is not philosophy about making money. it is about balancing the books without going bankrupt

Bankrupt?

More like fattening the books to bloat the pockets..

Talk about SGD$200mil being \"too little\" and \"not enough\" in some recent news and SGD$600k being \"peanuts\" in older news.. and one can see what I'm talking about..

It's not that the business is not viable.. but the profit is not enuff to satisfy the greed..

http://www.aic.sg/silverpages/stepsToLTC/page.aspx?id=194

since when is there S$200m for nursing home ?[/quote]

[david59]

limlim:

verykiasu2010:

any singaporean citizen willing to work at construction work site at $1250 per month plus AWS plus CPF ?

Earlier, when I mentioned $200mil with reference to general biz, you asked which nursing home got $200mil profit.

Then when I used NKF as general example of charity, you questioned since when NKF is nursing home.

Now, nursing home became construction site?

Anyway, let's assume the discussion is on general biz and not specific nursing home or whatever..

Look at this http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/showthread.php?t=3317319&highlight=pine+garden

You can either read the whole thread or just the first 2 posts.

This is an example of employers trying to give very low pay and then complain to Govt saying no locals wanna take up the job.

Thread content, reply from MOM:

\"In addition, feedback from job seekers indicated that the salary package you offered was low ($1000 for Assistant Baker, $900 for Service Crew), considering the requirement to work 10 to 12 hour work days. We note that other small food establishments with job postings during the same time frame were offering salaries of up to $1400 for similar positions and similar work conditions.\"

This is an example of greed.

Excellent link you provide!

[peapot]

Actually I heard from the grapevine that LKY’s target is 6million. So if true that means there should be more people coming in since our birth rate is so low.

[verykiasu2010]

peapot:

Actually I heard from the grapevine that LKY's target is 6million. So if true that means there should be more people coming in since our birth rate is so low.

it is only 800k people away ...... but the citizen population is not growing any faster .... that is the problem

[corneyAmber]

verykiasu2010:

peapot:

Actually I heard from the grapevine that LKY's target is 6million. So if true that means there should be more people coming in since our birth rate is so low.

it is only 800k people away ...... but the citizen population is not growing any faster .... that is the problem

It is really quite sad to know this as I have both relatives and friends all still pregnant in their 40s.... I really salute them....it is becoming quite common to hear them pregnant in their 40s....the most common lament I hear from them is when my kid is 10 years old I am in my 50s!!! This sounded like my grandma's time when she gave birth to her 8th child!!

[david59]

peapot:

Actually I heard from the grapevine that LKY's target is 6million. So if true that means there should be more people coming in since our birth rate is so low.

Unless infrastructures keep up with population growth to 6 millions in less than 5 years, Singapore will face greater problems in the future. Just take the health sector for eg. Our Minister for Health already reiterated that our hospitals are facing a very acute shortage of beds. Singapore is really not ready to face another global outbreak of disease. During SARS in 2003, we have one of the highest no. of cases in the world depite our small population. Same thing with H1N1. Our population was so badly infected by the disease that the hospital authority literally said that it could not really know how much of the population had been infected. The only fortunate thing is that this disease is not that deadly.
Besides, HFMD has constantly hit new recorded high among children every year. Again fortunately most are not fatal. And what about Dengue fever? Also a new recorded high this year. Why are we hit with such high record of sicknesses in proportion to a small population of our???
What if one day we are really hit by a very deadly contagious disease??? With an acute hospital beds to cope, how ??? How did we come to this stage of health issue???

[concern2]

david59:

peapot:

Actually I heard from the grapevine that LKY's target is 6million. So if true that means there should be more people coming in since our birth rate is so low.

Unless infrastructures keep up with population growth to 6 millions in less than 5 years, Singapore will face greater problems in the future. Just take the health sector for eg. Our Minister for Health already reiterated that our hospitals are facing a very acute shortage of beds. Singapore is really not ready to face another global outbreak of disease. During SARS in 2003, we have one of the highest no. of cases in the world depite our small population. Same thing with H1N1. Our population was so badly infected by the disease that the hospital authority literally said that it could not really know how much of the population had been infected. The only fortunate thing is that this disease is not that deadly.
Besides, HFMD has constantly hit new recorded high among children every year. Again fortunately most are not fatal. And what about Dengue fever? Also a new recorded high this year. Why are we hit with such high record of sicknesses in proportion to a small population of our???
What if one day we are really hit by a very deadly contagious disease??? With an acute hospital beds to cope, how ??? How did we come to this stage of health issue???

Sheer signs of congestion. We live too close to each other - the lift buttons we touch everyday - at our homes, office and shopping centers, the poles and handles on the public transport we hold on to, the traffic light panels we touch, the cash that goes in and out of our pocket/handbag - easy transfer of virus - not to mention those that's airborne...

That's why first thing foreigners and children must learn is to WASH HANDS and keep them to yourself as much as possible when in public places.