5.18M of population. Good or bad?

[concern2]

pinky:

foreigners looking for jobs here pay $$ to employers/HR people to secure jobs.
This has been reported in the papers before. I often wondered why some co. heads lamenting locals do not apply to their job advertisements, who knows the HR people could have kept their resumes and submitted resumes of those foreigners who paid them instead??? :evil:

Are they the only middlemen?

[LOLMum]

this is just an example of china pregnant women rushing to hk to give birth, denying many local citizens a bed and delaying the delivery of local babies.


with growing population and limited hospitals being built, i wonder if we have to fight for a bed with citizens and foreigners in the future.


http://hk.news.yahoo.com/%E5%85%A7%E5%9C%B0%E5%A9%A6%E8%A1%9D%E7%94%A2%E6%88%BF-%E7%B4%AF%E6%B8%AF%E5%AA%BD%E7%84%A1%E4%BD%8D%E7%94%9F-224438617.html

[pinky]

concern2:

pinky:

foreigners looking for jobs here pay $$ to employers/HR people to secure jobs.
This has been reported in the papers before. I often wondered why some co. heads lamenting locals do not apply to their job advertisements, who knows the HR people could have kept their resumes and submitted resumes of those foreigners who paid them instead??? :evil:

Are they the only middlemen?

not sure, but definitely a lucrative market and a win-win situation for all of them :evil: :evil:

[HyperKiasu]

LOLMum:

this is just an example of china pregnant women rushing to hk to give birth, denying many local citizens a bed and delaying the delivery of local babies.


with growing population and limited hospitals being built, i wonder if we have to fight for a bed with citizens and foreigners in the future.


http://hk.news.yahoo.com/%E5%85%A7%E5%9C%B0%E5%A9%A6%E8%A1%9D%E7%94%A2%E6%88%BF-%E7%B4%AF%E6%B8%AF%E5%AA%BD%E7%84%A1%E4%BD%8D%E7%94%9F-224438617.html

One PRC \"Talent\" once commented:
SG PR very easy to get 的, 是人都approved的.... :skeptical: :siao: :yikes: :shock: :siam:

[david59]

david59:

peapot:

Actually I heard from the grapevine that LKY's target is 6million. So if true that means there should be more people coming in since our birth rate is so low.

Unless infrastructures keep up with population growth to 6 millions in less than 5 years, Singapore will face greater problems in the future. Just take the health sector for eg. Our Minister for Health already reiterated that our hospitals are facing a very acute shortage of beds. Singapore is really not ready to face another global outbreak of disease. During SARS in 2003, we have one of the highest no. of cases in the world depite our small population. Same thing with H1N1. Our population was so badly infected by the disease that the hospital authority literally said that it could not really know how much of the population had been infected. The only fortunate thing is that this disease is not that deadly.
Besides, HFMD has constantly hit new recorded high among children every year. Again fortunately most are not fatal. And what about Dengue fever? Also a new recorded high this year. Why are we hit with such high record of sicknesses in proportion to a small population of our???
What if one day we are really hit by a very deadly contagious disease??? With an acute hospital beds to cope, how ??? How did we come to this stage of health issue???

Today's Straits Times has a front page news that TB is on the rise, likely to hit higher than last year's cases of 1478. Ironically, nos. of cases around the world has gone down. Why a clean city like Singapore can be so easily affected by contagious diseases leh?
TB is very contagious, spread by coughing tiny droplets into the air. Be more careful when near someone who is coughing badly.

[limlim]

david59:

Today's Straits Times has a front page news that TB is on the rise, likely to hit higher than last year's cases of 1478. Ironically, nos. of cases around the world has gone down. Why a clean city like Singapore can be so easily affected by contagious diseases leh?
TB is very contagious, spread by coughing tiny droplets into the air. Be more careful when near someone who is coughing badly.

it is precisely bcoz SG is too clean and locals have gotten used to the clean environment and their immune system weakens..

So when there is a threat the immune system cannot cope. It's something like, pple who don't exercise regular cannot run far when they are suddenly required to do so. more likely to get injured/clamps etc..

[Strparent]

limlim:

news.. greedy employer.

Don't need the foreign worker but yet bought them in to contribute to the overcrowded trains and buses.. so that he can pocket money from the workers.

The worst kind.. shd impose a severe sentence..

Construction firm boss Kenneth Lim Ong Long padded his list of local employees with bogus workers so as to be eligible to recruit more foreigners. The 73-year-old would then collect $6,000 for each of the 30 Chinese nationals he hired last year.

This scheme of getting obscene payments by importing foreign workers has been in existent since 15 years ago at least. Come on, MOM does not know before, only recently realise ? zzzzzzzz

works like a scam , imho. but the foreign levy income is good enough for some it seems. This levy is presently at $380 per foreign labourer, and some of these labourers sell their land, farm, loan, to pay the agents commission ranging from $4k to $9k , just to come here to work decently with income of abt $650 to $800 per month. Honest hardworking people, but manipulated by unscrupulous agents , many of which are Singaporeans. So, who are the trash ? Why no protection for these genuine workers ? Go figure...... this is the world we are in now.

http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/01/a-19th-century-page-from-a-21st-century-draft/

http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/01/%E2%80%9Ci-hope-singapore-government-punish-them%E2%80%9D/

http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/01/toc-expose-repatriation-companies/

What is the punishment to for those companies that earn commission by bring in workers, and then throwing them aside when there is no more work ? What is the recourse for those workers who paid thousands upfront to get here, only to be forced home without earning enough even to cover their money, against their will ?

first world country, my foot. Now I know why there was a report that USA consider Singapore on the blacklist for human trafficking and slavery.

[verykiasu2010]

Strparent:

This scheme of getting obscene payments by importing foreign workers has been in existent since 15 years ago at least. Come on, MOM does not know before, only recently realise ? zzzzzzzz

works like a scam , imho. but the foreign levy income is good enough for some it seems. This levy is presently at $380 per foreign labourer, and some of these labourers sell their land, farm, loan, to pay the agents commission ranging from $4k to $9k , just to come here to work decently with income of abt $650 to $800 per month. Honest hardworking people, but manipulated by unscrupulous agents , many of which are Singaporeans. So, who are the trash ? Why no protection for these genuine workers ? Go figure...... this is the world we are in now.

http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/01/a-19th-century-page-from-a-21st-century-draft/

http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/01/%E2%80%9Ci-hope-singapore-government-punish-them%E2%80%9D/

http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/01/toc-expose-repatriation-companies/

What is the punishment to for those companies that earn commission by bring in workers, and then throwing them aside when there is no more work ? What is the recourse for those workers who paid thousands upfront to get here, only to be forced home without earning enough even to cover their money, against their will ?

first world country, my foot. Now I know why there was a report that USA consider Singapore on the blacklist for human trafficking and slavery.

not only the above

also the scam on foreign domestic workers

also the scam on foreign students

[limlim]

Strparent:

What is the punishment to for those companies that earn commission by bring in workers, and then throwing them aside when there is no more work ? What is the recourse for those workers who paid thousands upfront to get here, only to be forced home without earning enough even to cover their money, against their will ?

first world country, my foot. Now I know why there was a report that USA consider Singapore on the blacklist for human trafficking and slavery.

That's why need tougher deterrence sentences against those despicable employers/agents..

[verykiasu2010]

special report


Firms feel impact of foreign worker crunch
Businesses protest, but some economists believe the limits are necessary


By Aaron Low, Magdalen Ng & Melissa Tan

Winning a $3 million contract should have been a triumph for Mr Robert Goh's electrical engineering business, but the foreign worker levy is ramping costs up so high that the 15-year-old company's future is in doubt.

SJ Thames Engineering employs about 20 foreigners for technical and basic engineering work, but once-healthy margins are being squeezed hard by the levies.

The cost per foreign worker is about $2,000 to Mr Goh. This cost includes $250 for lodging, salary of about $900 and a levy of $450.

'But even if I offer that amount, I can't get a local to join,' said Mr Goh, who placed an advert recently for an engineering job that attracted just six Singaporeans out of 160 applications.

http://www.straitstimes.com/BreakingNews/Singapore/Story/STIStory_727332.html