GEP 2011 - Screening & Selection
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stressedoutdaddy:
Thank Comfy, I am stressed out because my DD actually refuses to take the round 2 tests but my DW and me pushed her to take it as we think that she has potential. We told her that we leave the final decision to her as to whether she wants to go to GEP school or not.
Hi stressedoutdaddy, can't help saying this to you. Now,you are already super stressed out by this problem, ke ke....,wait till your kid start GEP.comfy:
[quote=\"stressedoutdaddy\"]Like sotongdad, I am here because of the power of google.
My DD told me that there are 6 from Woodgrove Pri School in Woodlands.
I am super stressed out now as I am staying in Woodlands.
There are no GEP schools in the North!!!
Help help help!!!
How about NYPS, they have very good bus transport system.
After reading thru' the 100 over pages, I think GEP is good in general for students but we don't want to corner her.
As parents, we are proud that our kid can make it and now it seems the logical choice is to take it!
I have 2 younger boys who will be in Pri 2 and Pri 1 next year. So there will be some logistics challenger for us.
In fact, I was in the 1st batch chosen to take round 1 in 1984 due to my good PSLE results but I didn't make it to GEP so I guess there is some redemption kind of feeling in me.
Just to update, after some \"brainwashing\" from us, she finally think RGPS is good for her last nite. I am not longer stressed up oredi. Guess we will just give her our best support in the next 3 years!!!
But it will be good for us to know more about the number of classes and class sizes in RGPS and other GEP centres like Rosyth, Nanhua.
Whether these schools provide good after school care facilities for students!
Hope to hear from those who have been thru' the same stress![/quote]Glad to hear that you are no longer stressed up. Curious to know your \"brainwashing\" method, can share? And how did she end up thinking RGPS is good for her. Ke..ke.. hope that down the road, your dd will not blame you and your \"brainwashing\".
Regarding how many classes and so forth, I think there will be booths set up by various GEP school (assuming same as last year) and you can ask till your heart content in those booths (bear in mind, some popular booths can be very crowded). So be KS abit and if possible, go early. -
PiggyLalala:
ds2 was selected for GEP. We did not expect it as he did not show any clear potiential. I am worried as to whether he can cope with the demand of the course. Anyone who has come across similar case, where the child does not show clear potential fr P1 to P3 but survive and doing well in the GEP? Ds2 did not go for any GEP training classes. He did not join any maths enrichment too.
Have faith and confidence in your son. If he got in on his own ability, he should be able to cope with the GEP programme academically. What you need is to give him lots of moral support and encouragement so that he's mentally and emotionally prepared for the changes in environment, friends and pace of the programme.
You'll find that the teachers and MOE emphasise a lot on the attitude of the GEP student. Some bright students have problems coping with the programme bec they don't have the correct attitude. Sometimes these students were forced to go into GEP by their parents and they languish bec they resist the system.
If your son is keen on the programme and is willing to put in his best effort, half the battle is won. -
OrangeJuice:
Mine similar to OrangeJuice. DS1 also among the top few in his level, went for GEP round 2 but didn't make it. DS1 is hardworking & results-oriented. DS2 total opposite but yet make it to GEP. DS1 said he wishes he can go GEP, DS2 a bit hesitant after I went through with him what's inside GEP before taking the plunge. But we will let him decide himself ... ultimately he's going to be the one doing it, so we respect his decision.PiggyLalala:
ds2 was selected for GEP. We did not expect it as he did not show any clear potiential. I am worried as to whether he can cope with the demand of the course. Anyone who has come across similar case, where the child does not show clear potential fr P1 to P3 but survive and doing well in the GEP? Ds2 did not go for any GEP training classes. He did not join any maths enrichment too.
I dont have any prior experience to share, my elder child a girl is always in the top class but didnt get selected for GEP after round 2 but she gets good grades in the mainstream. My DS although in top class, his grades aren't as impressive as his elder sister. He made it for GEP. Like you son, he doesnt attend enrichment classes except for Chinese. He is also v playful and do things at the last minute. However, he is a child who talks alot and asks a lot even in class (his teacher told me).
I hv my concerns too like you - would he be able to cope? Then I took a step back and thought, the teaching materials and methodology will be diff from mainstream, it may actually benefit him more because of his infinite curiosity. So your DS may not hv fantastic results now but if put in an environment that suits him, he may excel, hence there is a possibility that your DS may do better in GEP.
Just my opinion to share with you, that's all
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stressedoutdaddy:
RGPS has 3 classes. Nanhua has 2 and Rosyth had 3 last year. Maximum number of children in each class is 25. Depending on the intake, sometimes there are fewer than the maximum in each class.[
Thank Comfy, I am stressed out because my DD actually refuses to take the round 2 tests but my DW and me pushed her to take it as we think that she has potential. We told her that we leave the final decision to her as to whether she wants to go to GEP school or not.
After reading thru' the 100 over pages, I think GEP is good in general for students but we don't want to corner her.
As parents, we are proud that our kid can make it and now it seems the logical choice is to take it!
I have 2 younger boys who will be in Pri 2 and Pri 1 next year. So there will be some logistics challenger for us.
In fact, I was in the 1st batch chosen to take round 1 in 1984 due to my good PSLE results but I didn't make it to GEP so I guess there is some redemption kind of feeling in me.
Just to update, after some \"brainwashing\" from us, she finally think RGPS is good for her last nite. I am not longer stressed up oredi. Guess we will just give her our best support in the next 3 years!!!
But it will be good for us to know more about the number of classes and class sizes in RGPS and other GEP centres like Rosyth, Nanhua.
Whether these schools provide good after school care facilities for students!
Hope to hear from those who have been thru' the same stress! -
OrangeJuice:
think yr ds and rest of his schoolmates will mostly posted to HPPS .OrangeJuice:
for someone who lives at River Valley, which school is more convenient by public transport (bus/mrt/cab) ? catholic high primary or nanyang primary ? I would assume the latter is more popular ? Any advice ?
DS just came home and told me out of the 10 in his class, 6 are opting for Henry Park, 1 is opting out of GEP, 3 including him hvnt decided what school to choose ....
Heard Henry Park is moving, anyone knows when and where ?
all my ds schoolmates posted to same GEP center last year .
and all another batch of students from same school( different year )posted to NY, despite that some of the students did not put it as their 1st choice .
the end , it is still decided by MOE . -
OrangeJuice:
As far as I know, religious studies are not compulsory. THey will do some other activities while the catholic boys go for \"Jesus & I\" programme (not strictly Catholic either). I'm not sure about ACS. No experience there. I've only had kids in CHS & SNGS. CHS is certainly even less \"catholic\" than SNGS as in, they might not even arrange masses on days of obligation for the catholic boys, unlike SNGS - maybe bc SNGS still have the nuns next to their premises.
Hi phankao,we \"spoke\" in the PSLE thread on DHS vs NJC when I was considering sec schools for my DD earlier...now I am looking at schools for DS the younger one for GEP, do you have a son in CHS ? Hear lots of gd feedback re CHS and its teachers in the GEP. Do you hv more to share ? Also, do you know how are non-Christian kids excluded or included in religious activities(if any) in ACS? Are bible studies compulsory in Christian schools ?
Thanks !
I still have a son in CHS primary but graduating class - now p6. Only waiting for PSLE results now. Then it'll be on to secondary.
I have no experience with GEP in CHS, although I do know some of the teachers. There are only 2 classes, so it's a very small but certainly very favoured group. It does seem that alot of the resources do go into the GEP classes from my observation - even the classrooms look much neater and nicer! So if your child goes to GEP in CHS, certainly well taken care of. -
phankao:
Thanks phankao for sharing
As far as I know, religious studies are not compulsory. THey will do some other activities while the catholic boys go for \"Jesus & I\" programme (not strictly Catholic either). I'm not sure about ACS. No experience there. I've only had kids in CHS & SNGS. CHS is certainly even less \"catholic\" than SNGS as in, they might not even arrange masses on days of obligation for the catholic boys, unlike SNGS - maybe bc SNGS still have the nuns next to their premises.OrangeJuice:
Hi phankao,we \"spoke\" in the PSLE thread on DHS vs NJC when I was considering sec schools for my DD earlier...now I am looking at schools for DS the younger one for GEP, do you have a son in CHS ? Hear lots of gd feedback re CHS and its teachers in the GEP. Do you hv more to share ? Also, do you know how are non-Christian kids excluded or included in religious activities(if any) in ACS? Are bible studies compulsory in Christian schools ?
Thanks !
I still have a son in CHS primary but graduating class - now p6. Only waiting for PSLE results now. Then it'll be on to secondary.
I have no experience with GEP in CHS, although I do know some of the teachers. There are only 2 classes, so it's a very small but certainly very favoured group. It does seem that alot of the resources do go into the GEP classes from my observation - even the classrooms look much neater and nicer! So if your child goes to GEP in CHS, certainly well taken care of.
BTW good luck to your son in his PSLE results, I am too anxiously waiting for DD
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phankao:
My DS in the GEP. Not true that they are favoured group. Example, during mainstream exam, the school will have early release at 12.30pm (instead of normal 1.40pm). No CCA during mainstream exam, but not during GEP exam which is 1 week earlier.
I have no experience with GEP in CHS, although I do know some of the teachers. There are only 2 classes, so it's a very small but certainly very favoured group. It does seem that alot of the resources do go into the GEP classes from my observation - even the classrooms look much neater and nicer! So if your child goes to GEP in CHS, certainly well taken care of.
Feels that a lot of emphasize are put into the 'High Achiever' Class, those passed 1st round but not through 2nd round. I think partially most of the GEP boys will leave to RI/Hwa Chong/etc rather than stay on in CatHigh Secondary, whereas those 'High Achiever' mostly stayed on to the Secondary.
Anyway, as observed from DS previous school and CatHigh, there are good and 'not so good' teacher. It all boils down to luck and our childrens own effort.
Many of DS's classmate attended TLL. When teacher tried explaining in class, mostly will 'fight' to answer as mostly already learn the subject in advance in TLL. Once the teacher think that the children know, it will be skipped to those that nobody know. So you have to catch up yourself either autodidact or through enrichment centre. Last year DS was struggling eventhough in P3 he was 1st in level, best in Chinese/English/Math.
Luckily this year he bucked up. This is also due to the teacher's effort put in in P5. And his mindset changed that once in GEP he won't be the top anymore. -
syshi:
Glad tt that don't happen in my Ds school or at least not his cohort .. :roll:
My DS in the GEP. Not true that they are favoured group. Example, during mainstream exam, the school will have early release at 12.30pm (instead of normal 1.40pm). No CCA during mainstream exam, but not during GEP exam which is 1 week earlier.phankao:
I have no experience with GEP in CHS, although I do know some of the teachers. There are only 2 classes, so it's a very small but certainly very favoured group. It does seem that alot of the resources do go into the GEP classes from my observation - even the classrooms look much neater and nicer! So if your child goes to GEP in CHS, certainly well taken care of.
Feels that a lot of emphasize are put into the 'High Achiever' Class, those passed 1st round but not through 2nd round. I think partially most of the GEP boys will leave to RI/Hwa Chong/etc rather than stay on in CatHigh
Secondary, whereas those 'High Achiever' mostly stayed on to the Secondary.
Anyway, as observed from DS previous school and CatHigh, there are good and 'not so good' teacher. It all boils down to luck and our childrens own effort.
Many of DS's classmate attended TLL. When teacher tried explaining in class, mostly will 'fight' to answer as mostly already learn the subject in advance in TLL. Once the teacher think that the children
know, it will be skipped to those that nobody know. So you have to catch up yourself either autodidact or through enrichment centre. Last year DS was struggling eventhough in P3 he was 1st in level, best in Chinese/English/Math.
Luckily this year he bucked up. This is also due to the teacher's effort put in in P5. And his mindset changed that once in GEP he won't be the top anymore. -
syshi:
If the boys don't go to any outside tuition then the problem will be solved, won't it?
My DS in the GEP. Not true that they are favoured group. Example, during mainstream exam, the school will have early release at 12.30pm (instead of normal 1.40pm). No CCA during mainstream exam, but not during GEP exam which is 1 week earlier.phankao:
I have no experience with GEP in CHS, although I do know some of the teachers. There are only 2 classes, so it's a very small but certainly very favoured group. It does seem that alot of the resources do go into the GEP classes from my observation - even the classrooms look much neater and nicer! So if your child goes to GEP in CHS, certainly well taken care of.
Feels that a lot of emphasize are put into the 'High Achiever' Class, those passed 1st round but not through 2nd round. I think partially most of the GEP boys will leave to RI/Hwa Chong/etc rather than stay on in CatHigh Secondary, whereas those 'High Achiever' mostly stayed on to the Secondary.
Anyway, as observed from DS previous school and CatHigh, there are good and 'not so good' teacher. It all boils down to luck and our childrens own effort.
Many of DS's classmate attended TLL. When teacher tried explaining in class, mostly will 'fight' to answer as mostly already learn the subject in advance in TLL. Once the teacher think that the children know, it will be skipped to those that nobody know. So you have to catch up yourself either autodidact or through enrichment centre. Last year DS was struggling eventhough in P3 he was 1st in level, best in Chinese/English/Math.
Luckily this year he bucked up. This is also due to the teacher's effort put in in P5. And his mindset changed that once in GEP he won't be the top anymore.
Minority always don't get specials lah. On Higher Chinese exam days, there is no early let-off either. As for CCA, can always excuse yourself as there's generally no pressing issues like competition or performance during GEP exam days? Except for SYF in April of alternate years? That one almost everyone affected? FOr my elder boy, in 2009, his p6 SA1(CHS call it Prelims 1) was during the week of SYF.
Anyway, even the high achiever class(there is only 1 class now) - there are many boys who go to other schools. So if the rationale is that the school doesn't put in effort in teaching the ones who leave - then why do they put in effort for the best class? Ultimately, the school still wants their students' performance to be as good as possible, altho' the students may not continue on to secondary. That is inevitable.
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