Express or Normal stream

[janice_koh]

I think we should be able to combine Express/Normal options; just wonder how the online selection works. Anyone out there can enlighten us please?


Booklet 2 is coming out mid Oct, please take note... :roll: getting a bit excited now.

[caroline3sg]

I would think generally all 6 choices is either express or normal.


But different sch have different cutoff points for express & normal.
Eg: Sch A 200 for express, below 200 is normal.
Sch B 188 for express.

So I think better to call to MOE to ask.

[janice_koh]

hmm…shld be able to combine. any teachers out there that can help us?

[Ogima]

need advice here too…your are inputs greatly appreciated.


BPGH = autonomous since 1994, Express > 244, Normal > 192

YTSS = autonomous in 2010, Express > 237.

the above is based on last year aggregate range.

for example, if your child score is 240…

Would you want your child to enlist in an autonomous school with good long track records…but in a NORMAL stream. I understand that there is still a chance to promote to EXPRESS if his result is good in sec 1& 2…

OR…

enlist the child to a newly promoted autonomous school in EXPRESS stream ?

I am really looking forward to my child studying in a local U. Hence, choosing the right Secondary school & Pre-U studies is the precedence.

note : the schools mentioned are an example…the point acrossed is a "good" school but in NORMAL stream…or a "normal" school but Express ?

[tutormum]

The cut off point to opt for express course is 188. If your child scores 187, he can’t opt for express course. However, I understand that some schools are willing to put the child in the express course if it’s only 1 or 2 points difference upon parents’ request. Whether it’s better to put your child in the good school but normal stream depends on your child. If he’s good but due to his poor performance in the PSLE, which may not be a fair estimate of his ability, I’ll strongly recommend that he opt for normal stream and get promoted to the express stream based on his sec 1 results. I know of a boy who did just that. Not only did he top his level in sec 1 and get into the express stream, he did very well for his O level. However, it is tougher on the kids in Normal stream than Express stream actually. The main obstacle is to overcome the stigma to be in the Normal stream and their confidence is bruised. Also, they have to work a lot harder to prove themselves esp if they want to get into the Express stream. If they can’t get in due to their Sec 1 results, there is actually little hope to try to get in based on their Sec 2 results. Usually, the school required an overall 75% for the transition.

[sleepy]

I would opt for Express.


Seem harder to be promoted from Normal to Express. Subject to good academic results

Why go through this ‘ordeal’ if given a choice to choose?

[caroline3sg]

I called to MOE a while ago.


All 6 choices must be either express or normal acad. Cannot half express, half normal acad.

The range of 185 - 199 would be those eligible to choose either express or normal acad. To me, I feel that those 200 - 219 would be at a disadvantaged because there are no reasonable schools as compared to those 199 who can choose very good sch offering normal acad.

[janice_koh]

how do you define reasonable school i wonder?

[caroline3sg]

reasonable sch:

1) students must not be rowdy, mis-behave in public places.
2) I prefer majority chinese, not a lot of malays. I have seen one sch near my house, female malays wear their uniforms shabbily.
3) teacher care not lose hope kind of attitude.

I just heard very bad comments on chestnut sch students.

[jedamum]

Ogima:

need advice here too...your are inputs greatly appreciated.


BPGH = autonomous since 1994, Express > 244, Normal > 192

YTSS = autonomous in 2010, Express > 237.

the above is based on last year aggregate range.

for example, if your child score is 240...

Would you want your child to enlist in an autonomous school with good long track records...but in a NORMAL stream. I understand that there is still a chance to promote to EXPRESS if his result is good in sec 1& 2....

OR.....

enlist the child to a newly promoted autonomous school in EXPRESS stream ?

I am really looking forward to my child studying in a local U. Hence, choosing the right Secondary school & Pre-U studies is the precedence.

note : the schools mentioned are an example....the point acrossed is a \"good\" school but in NORMAL stream....or a \"normal\" school but Express ?

imagine you scoring 238 and your parents enrol you into BPHS when you could have got into another school and doing express, how would you feel? yes, if work hard, one can get from normal to express stream, but what if the kid gets dishardened or prefers to slow down and take normal academic route?