2011 PSLE Discussions and Strategy

[DaddyDaddy]

Big Octopus:

Pen88n:

[quote=\"Big Octopus\"]
Why can't RI open up more classes and accept all GEPpers instead ? I know there are some with GEPpers with low T score, but that is not what they are look at in the first place rite ? Otherwise, no need to identify GEP rite ?
Boys generally mature later and these kids might be doing very well later on as they mature.

Why only GEPpers who should have this priority - just becos they are identified at P3 level? In this case, all parents should go drill their kids for GEP (afterall no need to worry about T-score or sec sch thereafter). Your same arguement of later maturity can be applied to mainstreamers as well.....so RI has to open more classes to cater to whole of Singapore kids??

And why must it only be RI? Singapore has so many schools, and RI is not the only school who can groom your kid!

Come on, 别钻牛角尖. There are lots of good schools out there. Have you consider that your GEP kid may probably fare better in a different environment as compared with the competition he will face in RI???

I'm quoting RI from the previous post that was discussing on RI. There are definitely many good schools out there.
What is the reason when there are only 500+ GEPpers and thousands of mainstreamers RI cater so many classes for GEP ?[/quote]hmmmmmmm...
Let's do this
Perhaps let us try & see if we can understand why every year RI ends up with so many S1 classes of GEP kids
- Let's say RI takes in 250 out of the total 350 GEP boys in Singapore every year. Of which maybe 150-180 of these are fr DSA process and the remainder 70-100 are fr the S1 posting process. ( the numbers I quote here may not be 100% accurate, it's just for discussion sake )

Points to Note ( some are facts, some are my own assumptions):
1. RI is an independent School & therefore it's Principal is hired directly by its own Board of Governors & not just assigned to it by MOE.
2. The Principal of RI reports directly to the Board & probably wld want to perform well in the eyes of the Board
3. One of the very important key Performance indicator expected of the Principal by the Board wld very probably be the GCE A Levels Results
4. RI (being an independent school ) probably has a lot of discretion & independence ( i.e. not fully controlled by MOE on this ) on determining the admission policies to RI, including how many students to take in during DSA, how many students from the different domains ( eg. CCAs, GEP, Academic etc ) to allocate for the DSA process.
5. The detailed admission policies ( or shld I say strategies ) of RI wld probably be largely determined by its Principal & not the board ( board wld probably not go into such operational detailed aspects of running the school )
6. The Principal wld therefore be very very concerned about how the RI's Sec One admission selection policies ( or rather strategies ) would impact on the school's GCE A level performance 6 yrs down the road

With the above in mind, why then does RI end up with about 200-250 GEP boys every year? Is it because
(1) the Principal was from GEP
(2) MOE forced them to do so
(3) RI wants to boast that they managed to attract the majority of GEP kids to the school year after year
(4) RI just enjoy pissing off the parents on Kiasuparents who complain about RI having so many GEP boys
(5) \" ......... (fill in your own reason)\"

[jtoh]

polkadots:

Snow Crystal:

[quote=\"Leo Lion\"]If you were not in GEP, then secondary cannot take GE? Or can apply?

RI has SBGE ie school based GE. The school's pedagogy is same as GEP. Within the school, there are about 7 GEP classes. With your high score, you may be allocated one of these classes ie study with GEPpers.

My DS is GEP going to RI. Will he be in GEP class?[/quote]yes he will be.

[Bmw0880]

Hi jtoh,


My DS had a 243+2. We intend to choose ACSI as his first choice with an appeal. Do you think any luck?
And also, any suggestion on the order sequence for the below school we intend to choose?

- ACSI
- CHS (he have affiliated advantage)
- Anderson
- SJI
- ???
- ???

[KiasuMum1999]

stronger:

my daughter got 247+2, she like Cedar Girls, Cedar last year Cop is 248, next year cedar got IP, how high is the chance to get cedar through appeal?

Hi, extracted the below info from forummer, phtthp posted - Secondary School - Parents Networking Group on Cedar Girls. Hope you find the info useful.

\"just came back from Cedar open house today, 1 pm.
i asked: \"what is this year 2011 psle COP admission into Cedar Sec?\"

reply:-

\"girls opting for O level path - COP is 248.
girls opting IP path - COP still not out yet.
MOE currently still working with Cedar, to decide on COP for the IP programme.\"

Cedar Secondary takes off her maiden flight initiate IP programme, wef 2012 Term 1 (Sec 1).
http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/ ... 39/1/.html

out of Total 9 classes (for 2012 Sec 1 batch intake):-

- 100 girls (approx. 3.5 to 4 classes) will come under the new maiden IP track programme.

- remaining 5.5 classes will come under traditional O level programme.

- feedback gathered:-

majority Sec 1 girls want to take Higher Chinese (HCL).
very few girls want to take normal Chinese. even those not so good in HCL said they're willing to buck up, motivate themselves, work harder & improve on their HCL. They prefer to remain in HCL, bec prefer to follow the norm in school (school culture) to take up HCL.

for other race, pupils can take Higher Malay or Higher Tamil.

the school is also strong in Humanities, besides strong in triple Sciences.

as the tour continue to bring us around, i saw many computer lab modern facilities.

curious, i asked our young, bubbly tour guide currently Sec 3 this year, \"so after O level next year - would you prefer go polytechnic or Junior college ?\" She replied chirpily, \"many of us target going JC, not so much the poly. After my O level, i hope to join RI.\"

[jtoh]

Bmw0880:

Hi jtoh,


My DS had a 243+2. We intend to choose ACSI as his first choice with an appeal. Do you think any luck?
And also, any suggestion on the order sequence for the below school we intend to choose?

- ACSI
- CHS (he have affiliated advantage)
- Anderson
- SJI
- ????
- ????

You can only enjoy your affiliation status for CHS if you put it as your first choice. If you put it as your second choice, you will compete as a non-affiliate; no lower COP. As CHS' COP was 247 last year, your score of 243 is risky. Bear this in mind. Given your current order, Anderson is also above your COP. So you might end up at SJI if you're lucky. Just to add that SJI will start offering IP to its Sec 3 students in 2014 (your batch) which means demand for SJI is likely to go up this year, which means higher COP as well. Make sure you choose your 5th and 6th choices carefully.

As for ACSI, last year's COP of 245 for Express is more an abberation that is unlikely to repeat itself as previous years' intakes have been >250.

[stronger]

Many Thanks for summarize the posts!


My daughter has no problem for HCL, she got A* for chinese, and 2merit for higher chinese.

1. if worry she can't get cedar, must she put cedar for 1st choice to help for successful appeal after posting?
2. how about anglican high compared with chung cheng(main)? both Band 1?

KiasuMum1999:

stronger:

my daughter got 247+2, she like Cedar Girls, Cedar last year Cop is 248, next year cedar got IP, how high is the chance to get cedar through appeal?

Hi, extracted the below info from forummer, phtthp posted - Secondary School - Parents Networking Group on Cedar Girls. Hope you find the info useful.

\"just came back from Cedar open house today, 1 pm.
i asked: \"what is this year 2011 psle COP admission into Cedar Sec?\"

reply:-

\"girls opting for O level path - COP is 248.
girls opting IP path - COP still not out yet.
MOE currently still working with Cedar, to decide on COP for the IP programme.\"

Cedar Secondary takes off her maiden flight initiate IP programme, wef 2012 Term 1 (Sec 1).
http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/ ... 39/1/.html

out of Total 9 classes (for 2012 Sec 1 batch intake):-

- 100 girls (approx. 3.5 to 4 classes) will come under the new maiden IP track programme.

- remaining 5.5 classes will come under traditional O level programme.

- feedback gathered:-

majority Sec 1 girls want to take Higher Chinese (HCL).
very few girls want to take normal Chinese. even those not so good in HCL said they're willing to buck up, motivate themselves, work harder & improve on their HCL. They prefer to remain in HCL, bec prefer to follow the norm in school (school culture) to take up HCL.

for other race, pupils can take Higher Malay or Higher Tamil.

the school is also strong in Humanities, besides strong in triple Sciences.

as the tour continue to bring us around, i saw many computer lab modern facilities.

curious, i asked our young, bubbly tour guide currently Sec 3 this year, \"so after O level next year - would you prefer go polytechnic or Junior college ?\" She replied chirpily, \"many of us target going JC, not so much the poly. After my O level, i hope to join RI.\"

[dadnmom]

Helping--Hand:

Uhh.... still didn't get sufficient replies.. :sad:

Chung Cheng High Main V.S. Tanjong Katong Girls School V.S. Nan Chaiu High School V.S. Tanjong Katong Sec School
I can have the opportunity to chose 4 of them.
Please help me. I am really dunno which is a better school. :gloomy:

Hi,

Likewise, can anyone please comment on
1. Chung Cheng High (Main)
2. Tanjong Katong Sec School

Thanks in advance.

[MummySTay]

Bmw0880:

Hi jtoh,


My DS had a 243+2. We intend to choose ACSI as his first choice with an appeal. Do you think any luck?
And also, any suggestion on the order sequence for the below school we intend to choose?

- ACSI
- CHS (he have affiliated advantage)
- Anderson
- SJI
- ????
- ????

Hi, just being a kaypoh here. If I were you, I would put CHS as my first choice. It is after all a band 1 school. Have lots of friends whose DS went to CHS and are full of praises for the school.

If the students fail a test, they might have to stay back after school for extra lessons, then sit for a re-test. I think that is good because the teachers make sure that the students have grasped the topics taught before they proceed to the next.

Also, the principal actually gives out his personal handphone number to all the parents who are present when the boys report to the secondary school. He is probably the only principal in Singapore to do so.

Most of my friends' DS actually did well enough at O levels to join RI(JC). Just sharing what I know. Hope it helps.

[fruitteller]

[quote]That is one great comment there.....totally agree. [/quote]

2ppaamm:

random 99, this is what I ask my students to do when they want to get into medical school and cannot for some reasons. Ask yourself these:

1. why do I want to go to RI?
2. what can I do in RI that I cannot do in another school?
3. what if I cannot get into RI?

Write 5 points down for each question. Then you will realize it really does not matter. Getting into RI is just a bonus. I know that. I spent 6 years as a Rafflesian, and my son is also from RI. It is not so big a deal after many years. HCI or ACSI or any school is the same, as long as you are a great person. Work on the latter.

[Itaniwa]

For SAP schools, which student will be considered first when it comes to borderline case?

student A: 255+2(merit for HCL)
student B: 257

Need some advise as I wanted to have my 2nd dd into the same school as my 1st dd but worried that her score is the borderline case. She is in student A senario.

Can someone help?