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    • J Offline
      just888
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      jedamum:
      just888:

      Mine totally hands off Chinese story books.. refuse to touch any at all.

      Bribe and threats also no use.
      May i should start him on the kiddy ones 1st...sigh.

      you no need to šŸ˜“ la. yours is a gepper...which i think exams will be different from mainstream up until before PSLE. just focus on attaining 80% overall and then can DSA-ed into preferred sch.

      FYI, it is just plain lucky that CL is not included in the selection test!

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        smartmummy
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        I saw this thread regarding IP

        http://www.kiasuparents.com/kiasu/forum/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=29855

        Some students fail to thrive on Integrated Programme scheme

        Some transfer to polys or other JCs, others do poorly in A levels
        Published on Dec 22, 2011

        By Sandra Davie, Senior Writer
        As about 3,000 students on Wednesday celebrated winning a coveted place on the Integrated Programme (IP), others already on the scheme are about to make a quiet exit to the polytechnics and lesser-ranked junior colleges.

        Around 5 per cent of IP students exit before graduation, said the Education Ministry. Some transfer to polytechnics or junior colleges not offering the scheme. Of those who complete it, about 5 per cent fail to get into the local universities, the ministry added. Altogether, between 200 and 250 youngsters a year fail to thrive on the programme.

        Students on the IP skip the O levels and shoot straight for the A levels or International Baccalaureate. They are expected to learn in an independent way, without being stifled by having to prepare for two major exams in six years.

        But this is not necessarily the most desirable route for everyone, said the ministry. Nor is it the only path to success. 'Ultimately, the IP should only be taken up by those who would benefit from the self-directed learning environment it aims to promote,' said a spokesman.

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        Surprisingly, those who fail to thrive on the IP are not just less academic youngsters who were taken on because of their sporting or co-curricular achievements. Several entered IP schools with Primary School Leaving Examination (PSLE) scores well above 250, and a handful were from the Gifted Education Programme.

        The Straits Times interviewed 40 students who had either left brand-name schools offering the programme - such as Raffles and Hwa Chong Institution - or stayed on but fared poorly.

        Some of those who left opted to go to the polytechnics, using their school examination or O-level results. Others transferred to lesser-ranked junior colleges.

        Many of those who did badly were unable to get into the local universities, heading instead to private schools such as the Singapore Institute of Management (SIM) or overseas to take up degree studies.

        Recognising that not all students thrive on the scheme, two IP schools - Dunman High and Hwa Chong - also run O-level classes to prepare students for the examination. They said those lagging behind are identified at the end of Secondary 2 and advised to go into the O-level class. But some students also make the switch to the O-level track in Sec 4 or even JC1.

        A few who do well enough in the O levels are admitted back into the JC level in the same school. If not, they are advised to leave for the polytechnics or other JCs.

        Raffles Institution said it was looking into starting an O-level class. Principal Lim Lai Cheng said that if this happens, it will be 'to open up options' for those wanting to go to polytechnics or abroad.

        The IP started in 2004 at eight schools. It was aimed at the top 10 per cent of students, who were clearly bound for university. The idea was to provide a seamless secondary and junior college education, giving them the space to develop intellectual curiosity and other talents.

        The scheme became so popular that pupils and parents clamoured to get on board. More schools responded by offering the IP. In two years' time, 18 of them will be included in the programme, although the latest to join will also be offering the O-level track.

        Parents are anxious that there will be even fewer places in top junior colleges for students who are not on the IP but hope to get in after the O levels. Some have turned to tuition centres that promise to help students excel in the PSLE.

        Parents who have attended open houses at IP schools say they paint a rosy picture by publicising the stellar results of their IP students. There is no mention of their O-level class, or of those who fail.

        Madam Clarissa Lim, who is considering the IP track for her son, said: 'It is only after talking to some parents of the older kids did I realise that a fair number of IP kids actually fall through the cracks.' The 38-year-old added: 'The schools should be more open so that parents will have to think hard about whether the IP suits their children.'

        IP students who failed to thrive are divided about the merits of the scheme. One 22-year-old from Raffles Institution, who now studies at SIM, said: 'I didn't do so well in the A levels, but I still won't dismiss the IP as I felt that I gained in other ways. In my degree course at SIM, I am ahead of my classmates when it comes to research or when it comes to analysis.'

        The student, who asked not to be named, added: 'In a sense it prepared me for the university well. Ironically it didn't prepare me well for the A levels.'

        Others felt the IP had affected their academic progress. 'As far as I am concerned, I wasted one whole year,' said 18-year-old S. Lim, now in Ngee Ann Polytechnic. She had applied to the polytechnic after JC1. On her decision, she said: 'I am really one of those people who need a major exam to hunker down to study.'

        The ministry said that for most students, O levels will continue to be the most suitable preparation for post-secondary education. It said this is why all the seven new IP schools will offer this route alongside the elite programme, to allow students to transfer across tracks.

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          jedamum
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          just888:
          jedamum:

          [quote=\"just888\"]Mine totally hands off Chinese story books.. refuse to touch any at all.

          Bribe and threats also no use.
          May i should start him on the kiddy ones 1st...sigh.

          you no need to šŸ˜“ la. yours is a gepper...which i think exams will be different from mainstream up until before PSLE. just focus on attaining 80% overall and then can DSA-ed into preferred sch.

          FYI, it is just plain lucky that CL is not included in the selection test![/quote]i dont think it is luck la cos not possibly to include CL for gep test de.
          the purpose of GEP is to nurture those exceptionally good at EL and Ma.

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            just888
            last edited by

            jedamum:
            just888:

            Mine totally hands off Chinese story books.. refuse to touch any at all.

            Bribe and threats also no use.
            May i should start him on the kiddy ones 1st...sigh.

            you no need to šŸ˜“ la. yours is a gepper...which i think exams will be different from mainstream up until before PSLE. just focus on attaining 80% overall and then can DSA-ed into preferred sch.

            FYI, it is just plain lucky that CL is not included in the selection test![/quote]
            i dont think it is luck la cos not possibly to include CL for gep test de.
            the purpose of GEP is to nurture those exceptionally good at EL and Ma.[/quote]

            But CL is still be in part of his exam until JC which cannot be avoided right? So he still needs to study chinese. My son is basically weak in languages... in the band 2 in his sch. :roll: Not sure how he make it there though there are many more kids in his sch better than him.

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              jedamum
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              just888:


              But CL is still be in part of his exam until JC which cannot be avoided right? So he still needs to study chinese. My son is basically weak in languages... in the band 2 in his sch. :roll: Not sure how he make it there though there are many more kids in his sch better than him.
              dont worry la..with so many smart people around next time, your kid will inevitably feel that he needs to be kiasu too and be self motivated. heehee...

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                Champion
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                good morning to Club 2002 friends! :grphug:

                wishing ALL a Merry Christmas! šŸ•ŗ šŸ•ŗ

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                  711mum
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                  Good morning to Club 2002 Kids,


                  Let's put those frustrating CL issues aside first and enjoy our Christmas! :rahrah: :rahrah: šŸ•ŗ šŸ•ŗ

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                    711mum
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                    Merry Christmas to Club 2002 Kids

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                      smartmummy
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                      MERRY CHRISTMAS to all the members of club 2002 and their families!

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                        711mum:
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                        Merry Christmas to Club 2002 Kids
                        :thankyou: 711mum!

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