Can we bring our students' learning away from tuition?
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Nebbermind:
maybe some schools are not so ONz coz they have affilated sec school and fear losing their top brains to others schools...so help majority of them to get T-score of 240~255 would be good enough!!
:rotflmao: Liddat say oso can arh!
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buds:
Yeah!! Limlim is a BRAIN!!limlim:
The only loophole, if any, would be SAHM. But that is only a small % considering many parents here are struggling to make ends meet. And, I doubt any school would cry foul bcoz the school at the other side of the road has got more students whose parent stay at home to coach their kids..
Wah seh... another :goodpost:.
Psst limlim... your posts here make sense as compared to your other posts i've followed.
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buds:
No lah... my DS no name school has no affiliation. Can say brand name good. Can say neighbourhood also good. I've come across really good brand name and really good neighbourhood too... Unfortunately for my DS... Sob!!Nebbermind:
maybe some schools are not so ONz coz they have affilated sec school and fear losing their top brains to others schools...so help majority of them to get T-score of 240~255 would be good enough!!
:rotflmao: Liddat say oso can arh! -
Chenonceau:
:thankyou:
Is ok lah :hugs: ... I did get your point. But I also did get the point by limlim that the aim was to put in a measure to ensure that schools test what they do teach (or give resources for)... and not what they don't.
So I kept quiet.
Your point was quite clear to me because I had followed the discussion for sometime. I kinda wondered how one could track parental help though... I say my son has no tuition but I do give help by providing a lot of resources.
I guess in my ernest wish that a system could be put in place to ensure schools teach enough following limlim's suggestion (which I did say it is a good idea), I was playing too much of a devil's advocate to the loopholes (as I feel MOE will not implement unless loopholes can be somewhat addressed).
I also don't think we can track parental help ... and in a way we cannot really track private tuition (e.g., people will just say it's cousins, uncles, neighbours, friends etc helping ...) haha -
Chenonceau:
Well yep... ideally if MOE just publishes the textbooks and resources/materials and not independent publishers... good. A wee far-fetched for now but i am optimistic it can be done by employing curriculum specialists. I used to furnish ideas and worksheets for the organization i worked with and their syllabus and worksheets are pretty much auto-run now plus children are sufficiently (if not more) prepared for primary school education and i'm not referring to just P1.buds:
Not every school or their teachers are the types who don't teach or don't distribute sufficient (or extras?) materials beyond school texts or syllabus.
If 10%... 20%... 30%... 40% of schools don't distribute sufficient resources to cover what they test (so not extras but needed to pass exams), does it become a system problem then? How large a percentage of low performing schools is systemic?
Even if only 1% of schools don't distribute sufficient resources, it does mean a few hundred students a year. No one expects all schools to be perfect. It is a sign of a robust system to have redundancies and contingencies. Hence, if textbooks were more comprehensive, it would go some way to help students in the 1% of schools which aren't well run... without them having to turn to tuition.
Since no one is perfect, yes.. no school CAN be perfect. The head of the school must also have THE drive to motivate and to INSPIRE his/her teachers to strive for the school's vision.. For those who just stay in their offices.. and have the do-not-disturb me look i.e. closed-door-policy.. or any problem attack my frontline staff first hor... :roll: aiyaah.. :slapshead: .. no comment dy lar. Say oso sianz... sigh..
From what i've learnt through the girls' teachers is that... they periodically have to attend workshops that the school organizes or external companies the school engages to share new/creative stuff for the teachers. NIE also calls upon (in phases) their teachers to attend workshops that covers new things implemented in the school syllabus/curriculum, cos they say there are always new things coming up so new things to learn.
In a way, they find it helpful and refreshing as it helps them teach their students from a different angle/method that could help stray from boring textbook material.
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coast:
A wee misunderstanding all around. Words got in the way.
I guess in my ernest wish that a system could be put in place to ensure schools teach enough following limlim's suggestion (which I did say it is a good idea), I was playing too much of a devil's advocate to the loopholes (as I feel MOE will not implement unless loopholes can be somewhat addressed).
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Well said, but isn't it disgusting to see parents forgetting the joy of bringing up happy children but instead join the rat race and in doing so putting their kids under this tremendous pressure for the self satisfaction of the parents. Basically the parents want to brag about the kids and be praised on how they have done well to bringing up such intelligent kids. But are these kids street smart? Do they have the necessary EQ to outperform the others holistically? Kiasu Parents ask yourself, do you want happy children or just intelligent ones? A happy child will enjoy the learning process..............
It really saddens me to see our children these days. They do not know how to play!Joule:
yes, we can bring our students learning away from tuition WHEN
1) grade inflation has stopped and is under control
but grade inflation is but a result of parental 'kiasu-ness' (which is why you are here, no?)
also, in an increasing competitive nation (with more FT kiddos coming in), how do your kids stand out? isn't it to study harder and hopefully become a chicken essence kiddo?
basically, in parent's hearts, I think deep down they still have this ancient china imperial examination mindset. the best and brightest become officials and get to serve the emperor.... wonder who the emperor is going to be, this time....
if marks were not the issue, tuition centres would go out of business.
so being kiasu parents, they subscribe to more tuition, more homework, more enrichment.....more grades...which means scholarship, become an elite official / civil servant and live happily ever after..... -
buds:
:goodpost: :goodpost:
Well yep... ideally if MOE just publishes the textbooks and resources/materials and not independent publishers... good. -
Chenonceau:
A wee misunderstanding all around. Words got in the way.coast:
I guess in my ernest wish that a system could be put in place to ensure schools teach enough following limlim's suggestion (which I did say it is a good idea), I was playing too much of a devil's advocate to the loopholes (as I feel MOE will not implement unless loopholes can be somewhat addressed).
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coast:
:snuggles: :hugs:
Hope you feel better now...
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