Intellect or Age Peer?

[2ppaamm]

Chenonceau:

2ppaamm, you have PM... I need a bit of help from you. TIA.

Chen, I sent you a reply. Have a read and hope it helps!

[Chenonceau]

laughingcat:

Chen, it is never too late. Your DS still have time. Most importantly, he did enjoys his childhood yeah. Just nurture and assist him on his passion. That is more fun.

:snuggles: I suppose it was a good thing that DS flunked early last year. I finally gave him my time.

[Chenonceau]

raisintan:

Hi 2ppaamm and chenonceau,


Can u share what do u mean by holding back? As in hands off and not being involved?

I refused to teach beyond what Teacher was teaching. I didn't know that schools test beyond what they teach. Since I have to teach, I might as well have gone all the way and my son would already be way way ahead.

[raisintan]

Chenonceau:

raisintan:

Hi 2ppaamm and chenonceau,


Can u share what do u mean by holding back? As in hands off and not being involved?

I refused to teach beyond what Teacher was teaching. I didn't know that schools test beyond what they teach. Since I have to teach, I might as well have gone all the way and my son would already be way way ahead.

Hi Chen,

It's always a struggle isn't it? If we over-teach, our kids will get bored in class.

[sleepy]

raisintan:

It's always a struggle isn't it? If we over-teach, our kids will get bored in class.

I suppose it's a delicate balance. If child is motivated to learn more & is able to absorb, why not?

[metz]

Chenonceau:

raisintan:

Hi 2ppaamm and chenonceau,


Can u share what do u mean by holding back? As in hands off and not being involved?

I refused to teach beyond what Teacher was teaching. I didn't know that schools test beyond what they teach. Since I have to teach, I might as well have gone all the way and my son would already be way way ahead.

Not teaching ahead isn't necessary bad, especially at a younger age. Sometimes, it allows the child time to consolidate what he/she knows. And when ready, he/she will self-propel to greater heights. Remember your advice on my kid's writing? We put off the task completely until last oct or nov. His thinking and writing skills has shown much more complexity and maturity now (but he's still not an avid writer yet).

Perhaps, holding them back a little at times will encourage them to go further in the long run.

[2ppaamm]

sleepy:

raisintan:

It's always a struggle isn't it? If we over-teach, our kids will get bored in class.

I suppose it's a delicate balance. If child is motivated to learn more & is able to absorb, why not?

Why not. Because the teachers ask us not to, and because he acts too smart in class, because the teachers and principals assume he is hot housed at home, because he asks too many questions those teachers cannot answer. Because of all these, it is better to dumb down your child in school. Such is my experience. If he attends tuition, his enrichment is to score As, if we enrich the kids, and our aim is not to just score As, his experience is totally different. He will have a different way of looking at things, a wider and more intellectual way, his knowledge is not confined to what the school will cover, so he asks questions that teachers don't know how to answer, like why did the communists in Singapore have to retreat and not allowed to return until the last 1990s? Writing this, \"γειά σου\" in a composition is not appreciated, even in quotes. Telling your English teacher she spelled a word wrongly in class is not appreciated when you are only 10.

Geez... some even go as far as to tell the children algebra is not accepted as answers to Maths questions... what kind of a world is this?

[metz]

2ppaamm:

sleepy:

[quote=\"raisintan\"]It's always a struggle isn't it? If we over-teach, our kids will get bored in class.

I suppose it's a delicate balance. If child is motivated to learn more & is able to absorb, why not?

Why not. Because the teachers ask us not to, and because he acts too smart in class, because the teachers and principals assume he is hot housed at home, because he asks too many questions those teachers cannot answer. Because of all these, it is better to dumb down your child in school. Such is my experience. If he attends tuition, his enrichment is to score As, if we enrich the kids, and our aim is not to just score As, his experience is totally different. He will have a different way of looking at things, a wider and more intellectual way, his knowledge is not confined to what the school will cover, so he asks questions that teachers don't know how to answer, like why did the communists in Singapore have to retreat and not allowed to return until the last 1990s? Writing this, \"γειά σου\" in a composition is not appreciated, even in quotes. Telling your English teacher she spelled a word wrongly in class is not appreciated when you are only 10.

Geez... some even go as far as to tell the children algebra is not accepted as answers to Maths questions... what kind of a world is this?[/quote]
Hmm, I am confused here. Am I reading that you are encouraging parents to send their kids for academic enrichments? Oh dear, does that mean i'm shortchanging my kids if they have none since birth? The only enrichment I could afford is books...

[2ppaamm]

chamonix:

2ppaamm:

[quote=\"sleepy\"]
I suppose it's a delicate balance. If child is motivated to learn more & is able to absorb, why not?

Why not. Because the teachers ask us not to, and because he acts too smart in class, because the teachers and principals assume he is hot housed at home, because he asks too many questions those teachers cannot answer. Because of all these, it is better to dumb down your child in school. Such is my experience. If he attends tuition, his enrichment is to score As, if we enrich the kids, and our aim is not to just score As, his experience is totally different. He will have a different way of looking at things, a wider and more intellectual way, his knowledge is not confined to what the school will cover, so he asks questions that teachers don't know how to answer, like why did the communists in Singapore have to retreat and not allowed to return until the last 1990s? Writing this, \"γειά σου\" in a composition is not appreciated, even in quotes. Telling your English teacher she spelled a word wrongly in class is not appreciated when you are only 10.

Geez... some even go as far as to tell the children algebra is not accepted as answers to Maths questions... what kind of a world is this?

Hmm, I am confused here. Am I reading that you are encouraging parents to send their kids for academic enrichments? Oh dear, does that mean i'm shortchanging my kids if they have none since birth? The only enrichment I could afford is books...[/quote]O no, did I sound like I am encouraging children to go for enrichment? Not at all! Explain later... daughter needs help...

[Chenonceau]

chamonix:

Chenonceau:

[quote=\"raisintan\"]Hi 2ppaamm and chenonceau,


Can u share what do u mean by holding back? As in hands off and not being involved?

I refused to teach beyond what Teacher was teaching. I didn't know that schools test beyond what they teach. Since I have to teach, I might as well have gone all the way and my son would already be way way ahead.

Not teaching ahead isn't necessary bad, especially at a younger age. Sometimes, it allows the child time to consolidate what he/she knows. And when ready, he/she will self-propel to greater heights. Remember your advice on my kid's writing? We put off the task completely until last oct or nov. His thinking and writing skills has shown much more complexity and maturity now (but he's still not an avid writer yet).

Perhaps, holding them back a little at times will encourage them to go further in the long run.[/quote]Must know your child. Must know yourself.

I Know Myself
I know how to be a good Learning Companion. When I myself decide to homeschool, my kids move ahead FAST through discovery. I've never really TAUGHT either of them. But I have to plan and acquire materials ... ask the right questions to open their minds. Then I have to read them and respond and find strands of interest to encourage and weave together with syllabus... and then let them go to explore some more. Even now, I don't TEACH my son. I can't read Chinese and I can't get past his Math Paper 1... how to teach? Because of my job, I am well-trained to Teach Less... so that the learner Learns More. This is not something everyone can do.

I Know My DS
I didn't try with my DS. I ASSUMED that because he was so blur and never near the top of class that he was unable. After P5, I know his mettle. It was convenient that I assumed because I was lazy and selfish... and I expected MOE to do its job. I thought it was ok to have him plod along. But he failed... and so I was forced to notice... and in the process, I discovered my son.

In my particular situation, I regret. God gave me children to sculpt into beautiful beings. I could have done a more conscientious job of it and they would be happier. There is great joy in the discovery of knowledge. It isn't all pain. I regret because I know how... and my son can... but I didn't. And this caused him unnecessary pain. Makes sense?