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    Worried parents taking children to psychologists

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      vicki
      last edited by

      rocklee:
      Hi Larkspur


      This is off topic but I just to share with you, my DS2 could not hold a pencil properly in K2 and hence had difficulty in writing. I figured out that his motoring skills were lacking. Subsequently I signed him up for Garie Sim's Play Clay Creative workshop. During the workshop, kids used clay to make animals. Through the process, my DS motoring skills improved as he needed strength from his hands to roll the clay into different shapes. This sought of help strenghten his muscles and soon he was able to grip the pencil more firmly. Thereafter, writing became much easier to handle for him. You may wish to try it out.

      Cheers
      You can also use 'play doh' or those squeezy ball stuff to help strengthen the hand. My cc teacher recommended the above.

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        2ppaamm
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        buds:
        insider:

        A sensible parent with a 'normal' child will know how to smile at others when the latter comment about his/her child being 'slow', 'not up to par', etc, with a 'never mind' heart instead of taking such comments harshly.


        Such parent may even laugh at difficult exam together with the child after the child fails it.

        With this mentality, then everything also can be a 'no issues'. The moment one cannot accept such 'well intentioned but ill comment/method', then the child will start to have more troubles coming his/her way.

        I support psychological testings if the needs are genuine. Learning disabilities should be identified during preschool years or else it maybe more difficult to reverse when the child enters P1. To me, the burden / guilt of a child not being identified in his preschool mostly lies with his preschool teacher if she really fails to identify it after at least 6 months with a child (this kind of teacher 'eat waste rice').

        Yes. All true.
        insider:
        I believe Funz and I and many other preschools are getting to see more and more preschoolers with learning disabilities and as long as the preschool that a child is in is not the 'academic' type, then if the teacher proposes a professional assessment, the need is likely to be a genuine one. If child is in an academic preschool, then parents may have to rethink about such need since in most academic-driven preschools, they hardly could see a child anything further than whether can read or master timetables... (that's why academic-driven preschools are overall harmful to 'slower' young children who can anytime get 'labeled').
        During my time oredi got a handful in almost every class... not just recently. The problem is, some parents are in denial that even when their child literally displays all the symptoms.

        I had a boy come in for supposed enrichment pgrm once and i really cudn teach him because he clearly had autism. My superiors called parents and they denied vehemently and was of course upset and called our ctr names and such. It is only when management decided to ask the child to leave as the other normal children were very affected by his extreme behavioral issues, the parents came clean abt his autism and produced report. He was already in special school and had partial home support from a professional who comes twice weekly but the parents admitted that they just wanted to chuck him some place and by that they mean any place tt was willing to take him... cos they were sick of him at home and driving all their maids away. Tt was why they didn't declare.

        Parents do know their children huh?

        Strange parents... but all are like that. Unfortunately, educators tend to think that all parents are like that, and assume parents are all uneducated or in denial, as long as parents do not do exactly as they are told by the teachers. Sometimes the schools do not understand that there are constraints, including financial ones. Remember, this is a country with no help for special needs, or IEP. So if that's the case, and international schools are not an option for normal kids, so like it or not, the schools have to take ALL these children. They do not have an option. For some reason, the public schools think they do.

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          2ppaamm
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          ksi:
          larkspur:

          i think for my son's case might be a little different. i realise when he does writing, he uses his left hand but when he does other activities like using a spoon, playing, holding ice cream etc, he uses his right hand. i feel he needs to strengthen his left hand


          Larkspur, I just recalled something about my child. Instead of getting her to do writing rigorously, I sign her for art classes to do broad strokes work instead. Handwriting is fine motor skills. After doing art for a while, there was improvement in writing and it came much more naturally.

          Yes, do something else, like typing, playing the piano etc. Too much pressure focusing on writing. I think he'll be stressed out.

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            vicki
            last edited by

            2ppaamm:
            ksi:

            [quote=\"larkspur\"]i think for my son's case might be a little different. i realise when he does writing, he uses his left hand but when he does other activities like using a spoon, playing, holding ice cream etc, he uses his right hand. i feel he needs to strengthen his left hand


            Larkspur, I just recalled something about my child. Instead of getting her to do writing rigorously, I sign her for art classes to do broad strokes work instead. Handwriting is fine motor skills. After doing art for a while, there was improvement in writing and it came much more naturally.

            Yes, do something else, like typing, playing the piano etc. Too much pressure focusing on writing. I think he'll be stressed out.[/quote]One more thing -- if you are only interested in 'writing', try making him write using a white board n white board marker.

            The teacher in my cc told me to do that for ds3 as it is 'easier' to write - and after he can write 'well' - maybe then proceed on to pencil n paper.

            So far, it is 'working' for my ds3.... Usually with the pencil n paper, he can barely seat there n write for 5mins -- but since starting with the white board thingy - he can actually seat n trace the alphabets for 1/2 hr!!

            Maybe still a noviety to him since i only started doing this this week!! šŸ™‚

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              toddles
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              vicki:
              toddles:



              yeah... i know various ppl who knew her too. principal chased her and her filming team off the school grounds when they came. we were in an LT and the guys were like, whoa, guess who's here!

              Sorry sorry - i know i deserve to be :spank: for being :offtopic:

              BUT BUT.... you mean she actually brought a filming team to HC to film her doing a porn movie???????? :siam:

              No lah it was to film the story of her life.

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                Chenonceau
                last edited by

                http://www.kiasuparents.com/kiasu/forum/viewtopic.php?p=707812#p707812


                All those Mommies good with preschoolers' writing problems, can please help give jenao some perspectives. I want to help but have no views.

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                  2ppaamm
                  last edited by

                  Chenonceau:
                  http://www.kiasuparents.com/kiasu/forum/viewtopic.php?p=707812#p707812


                  All those Mommies good with preschoolers' writing problems, can please help give jenao some perspectives. I want to help but have no views.
                  I'm a leftie who switched, but I am also ambidextrous, like most lefties. On my father's side, every auntie is left handed, my son is also left, my other son is ambidextrous.

                  But honestly, I don't have a view. Why is the teacher insisting? 🤷 We are all very happy using right hand or left hand. Even though I switched, I can still write with left hand, play games with both, and use chopsticks with both. On a table, as a family, we decide which hand to use. If we see someone can only use right, we all laugh and use right. If we see there are some stubborn lefties, we just use left. So that we don't clash into each other. So, I'm ok being left or right... so I don't have a view. :?

                  When I injure one hand, I use the other to write. I guess whether you are right or left, you'll do the same thing. When I'm tired using one hand to pound spices, I use the other hand, ditto for everything I do, including playing badminton. I'm happy using both, except for my competitive sport, I bat using right hand, because my coach couldn't teach me otherwise. I also became very strong on the right. Hm... I know this information does not help much, but I am absolutely neutral.

                  BTW, it is no big deal being ambidextrous. I'm so old, yet I still have a hard time telling left from right. To this day. Worse than that 4 year old. :stupid:

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                    Chenonceau
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                    2ppaamm:
                    Chenonceau:

                    http://www.kiasuparents.com/kiasu/forum/viewtopic.php?p=707812#p707812


                    All those Mommies good with preschoolers' writing problems, can please help give jenao some perspectives. I want to help but have no views.

                    I'm a leftie who switched, but I am also ambidextrous, like most lefties. On my father's side, every auntie is left handed, my son is also left, my other son is ambidextrous.

                    But honestly, I don't have a view. Why is the teacher insisting? 🤷 We are all very happy using right hand or left hand. Even though I switched, I can still write with left hand, play games with both, and use chopsticks with both. On a table, as a family, we decide which hand to use. If we see someone can only use right, we all laugh and use right. If we see there are some stubborn lefties, we just use left. So that we don't clash into each other. So, I'm ok being left or right... so I don't have a view. :?

                    This is a view mah... go post at jenao thread can? If I were her, I would be interested to see this perspective. Might help.

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                      metz
                      last edited by

                      ksi:
                      Seow Ting Ting:

                      [quote=\"Oppsgal\"]The number of chickens in each of the six baskets was equal to the number of ducks in each of the four baskets


                      So? number of chickens in 1 chicken basket = number of ducks in 1 duck basket :?

                      🤷 Luckily I am not in this generation. Think the sentence is confusing enough. :yikes:

                      Actually answer is 30 of animals divided by 10 units? Chicken 6 units so 3X6. Duck 4 units so 3X4? Ok...I cheated a little by looking at the answer. šŸ˜‰

                      there are simpler words to use for children.why they need to complicate things

                      [/quote]Perhaps, it is us, the adults, who choose to look at things with a complicated mind?


                      This is how my daughter solved the problem -

                      30 - 6 = 24
                      24 - 4 = 20

                      20 - 6 = 14
                      14 - 4 = 10

                      10 - 6 = 4
                      4 - 4 = 0

                      There are 3 animals in each basket.

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                        concern2
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                        Howcome this thread has turned into a home-schooling thread? :? I thought I was going to write something about this until I see the subject šŸ˜† :offtopic:

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