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    MOE Relooking P1 registration - Too much priority to alumni

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    • laughingcatL Offline
      laughingcat
      last edited by

      phankao:
      Daddy 😧

      I reckon MOE is planning this P1 reg review cos' all schools will go single session in 2016?

      Less vacancies... More upset parents...
      The earliest batch to be affected could be 2014 reg?

      How come MOE never ask parents for feedback?
      Or MOE policy makers think they know best?

      Then we can only hope for the best!
      :celebrate:

      I still think it should be to refine the alumni scheme - (A) limit to those only from that primary school and not those from secondary, for example. There's probably other criteria - eg. (B) only 1year in that school cannot count. , etc, etc. (C) contributions to the primary school during their years there.

      Are you sure the current policy takes in secondary? That is not true right? All along i am thinking the policy only considering primary school.

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      • L Offline
        limlim
        last edited by

        Laura02:

        Giving priority by proximity alone would only serve to drive up the prices of homes near to the school.
        so?






        Say, no priority by distance, everyone same priority. Some schools 1000% over subscribed (desirable?).. some alumni stay in Changi send their kids to School in Bukit Timah.

        Is this \"In the best interest of the child's education needs\" (assuming all schools are the same)?

        prices of home going up near some schools.. is this even under the jurisdiction of MOE?? MOE has to look after a child's education needs.. do they have to step in 1 leg to try and control/limit housing prices also?

        How they got there (near popular schools), and what is the result of them being there.. is this the concern of MOE? Or, they are already there.. what is best for the child's needs is of greater concern to MOE?

        If that school is in wealthy areas.. maybe, the school can be relocated to somewhere near to, but not 100% surrounded by, wealthy areas.. This would provide a mix of the wealth level of the students, while still taking care of the needs of the students.

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          LOLMum
          last edited by

          phankao:


          I still think it should be to refine the alumni scheme - (A) limit to those only from that primary school and not those from secondary, for example. There's probably other criteria - eg. (B) only 1year in that school cannot count. , etc, etc. (C) contributions to the primary school during their years there.
          (a) isnt it the rule now that only parent of that particular primary school could join the alumni? i dont think parent of an affiliated secondary school could join the alumni of the primary school.

          (b) only 1 year doesnt count - well.....am thinking.

          (c) contributions - what type of contributions? winning awards? okay, does winning an award (of any type be it maths, odyssey of the mind, chess, dance, art and crafts) just 1 time count? what about being an outstanding student for the year (just 1 year) as well?

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          i still think only citizens should be automatically given a place in phase 1 (current student/sibling phase). opening up more places for other phases.

          younger siblings of current students who are pr should be moved to phase 2b onwards.

          for alumni (be it citizen or pr), it should be like what shhk is doing now. that is only give out letters to active members who have been with skkh for donkey years.

          likewise for church members, it should follow what skkh is doing.

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          • janet88J Offline
            janet88
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            laughingcat:
            janet_lee88:

            If I am an old girl of certain school, I would want my daughter to attend that same school...why would I consider a school which I do not know. Of course, I will take into consideration the distance.


            So now you change your mind? Now you are all for alumni? I am not getting this.

            I will send my daughter back to my former school...but will NOT pay alumni fees.
            Anyway, my daughter is now studying in my alma mater...we registered under phase 2A2. No reason to pay alumni fee. Phase 2A2 is definitely good enough. My 8 year old daughter said she hopes she has a daughter in future, so that she can also go back to the same school.

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            • phankaoP Offline
              phankao
              last edited by

              laughingcat:

              Are you sure the current policy takes in secondary? That is not true right? All along i am thinking the policy only considering primary school.
              Yes, Can. We discussed this yesterday already here.

              Definitely for schools like SNGS & CHS, this is currently the allowable. Parents who had been in the secondary school (and never in the primary) can apply for their children under p1 registration under phase 2A1/2. I know parents who've done it.

              Not sure if all the schools listed as Full schools here on MOE website are under the same scheme:
              http://app.sis.moe.gov.sg/schinfo/SIS_Directory.asp

              I know though that, eg. parents who've been in MGS can apply for their daughters under Phase 2A1/2 for p1. But parents from PLMGS are not eligible for the same as PLMGS is not considered a \"full\" school? So, for this, really need to check with the school.

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              • phankaoP Offline
                phankao
                last edited by

                LOLMum:

                (a) isnt it the rule now that only parent of that particular primary school could join the alumni? i dont think parent of an affiliated secondary school could join the alumni of the primary school.
                .
                Don't think schools like SNGS, CHS, MGS, have separate alumni for primary & secondary alumni. So we are talking only about 1 alumni association.

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                • janet88J Offline
                  janet88
                  last edited by

                  Laura02:
                  I agree that there's no pleasing everyone. And everyone see things differntly.


                  Personally, I feel a sense of belonging and connection to the past knowing that I studied in the same school my grandmother studied in. Similarly, I am passing on this tradition to my dd by having her study in my school.
                  I just hope the phase 2A2 will stay...daughter's school doesnt take in PVs prior p1 registration. Girls get into the school based on the catholic religion ie phase 2B.

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                    3Boys
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                    phtthp:
                    abolish the phase 1 sibling scheme. There're far too many PR children inside the Phase 1 sibling scheme now. Every child just re-queue for their turn - whether SG born citizen or PR kid, when comes to P1 registration.


                    retain the alumni. Most of the alumni's kids are SG born citizenship - those who studied in SG 30 years ago tend to be fellow Singaporean, \"ka ki lang\" - compared to more PR kids found inside phase 1 sibling scheme.
                    What an ugly attitude to take. Take all measures to curtail other people. This the type of Singapore I want to raise my kids? To knock out one foreign student, you are willing to shoot down 19 other Singaporeans? Just close the borders lah, don't need to pretend that we are a open country. I am a Singaporean but I resent this kind of attitude in my 'ka ki lang'.

                    http://www.kiasuparents.com/kiasu/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=32436&p=717760#p717760

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                      3Boys
                      last edited by

                      concern2:
                      3Boys, you're probably going to flame me for seeing too much into politics - anyhow, a thought came to me and I've shared this on the other thread:


                      http://www.kiasuparents.com/kiasu/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=32436&p=717495#p717495
                      No flames, just a friendly rebuttal --> http://www.kiasuparents.com/kiasu/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=32436&p=717760#p717760

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                      • laughingcatL Offline
                        laughingcat
                        last edited by

                        janet_lee88:
                        laughingcat:

                        [quote=\"janet_lee88\"]If I am an old girl of certain school, I would want my daughter to attend that same school...why would I consider a school which I do not know. Of course, I will take into consideration the distance.


                        So now you change your mind? Now you are all for alumni? I am not getting this.

                        I will send my daughter back to my former school...but will NOT pay alumni fees.
                        Anyway, my daughter is now studying in my alma mater...we registered under phase 2A2. No reason to pay alumni fee. Phase 2A2 is definitely good enough. My 8 year old daughter said she hopes she has a daughter in future, so that she can also go back to the same school.[/quote]Whether it is phase 2A1 or 2A2 is still alumni. It is up to individual whether want to pay more or not. At the end of the day still alumni. Period.

                        Hear from your statement, you still favours alumni and you dun favours removing it.

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