Do you think there is still a future for our kids...
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depends on what future means lor. if mean there is a chance to be cash and asset rich, yes. down here very competitive, our kids would grow up tough and sharp if they make it. there are opportunities.
but if talking about future as in standard of living in terms of lifestyle choices, down here very limited for our kids. the only option for them is being corporate and cut-throat. if they want a more varied life as life is more than about money, then singapore little future for them. -
One word - TOUGH
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Why no future? Why so pessimistic? Are we having problem creating jobs for our future generations? The impression is that many foreigners are here and have taken away our jobs but reality is that these jobs are not wanted by singaporeans. For examples, cleaners, sale assistants, restaurant helpers, constuction workers, bus drivers, etc. At the same time, I know of some singaporeans who shun these jobs because they think the pay is not high. So, it’s about expectation but can we expect every job pays the same?
Look at the causeway every morning. There are at least 20,000 m’sians making daily trip to work here, can’t singaporeans fill up these vacancies? No, we all want higher pay job and there again, where to find a country that the pays are the same for all the jobs? We have to keep our expectation in check because there is no way the employers are willing to give high pay for certain jobs.
The real concern is how to get singaporeans to fill up these jobs. Not possible that everyone is tau kay. We have to accept that there will be wage gap and another concern is that the wage gap shouldn’t be too wide. Our Geni co-efficient rate tells us that we are not doing too well in this aspect and I hope the govt is working hard on this. -
HVR:
about singapore shunning the jobs, my fren who is working in this ministry (where you will go and look for them when employers dun pay your salary) says \"dun believe in what the newspaper says about foreigners filling up low pay jobs such as cleaners, sales assistant, these low pay jobs are small percentage compared to high end job, like comparing peanuts to pomelo\"Why no future? Why so pessimistic? Are we having problem creating jobs for our future generations? The impression is that many foreigners are here and have taken away our jobs but reality is that these jobs are not wanted by singaporeans. For examples, cleaners, sale assistants, restaurant helpers, constuction workers, bus drivers, etc. At the same time, I know of some singaporeans who shun these jobs because they think the pay is not high. So, it's about expectation but can we expect every job pays the same?
Look at the causeway every morning. There are at least 20,000 m'sians making daily trip to work here, can't singaporeans fill up these vacancies? No, we all want higher pay job and there again, where to find a country that the pays are the same for all the jobs? We have to keep our expectation in check because there is no way the employers are willing to give high pay for certain jobs.
The real concern is how to get singaporeans to fill up these jobs. Not possible that everyone is tau kay. We have to accept that there will be wage gap and another concern is that the wage gap shouldn't be too wide. Our co- efficient rate tells us that we are not doing too well in this aspect and I hope the govt is working hard on this. -
HVR:
My friend is mid-level banker. All her bosses (barring 1 or 2) are foreigners. Those are not low paying jobs. How many of the major banks in Singapore have local CEOs?Why no future? Why so pessimistic? Are we having problem creating jobs for our future generations? The impression is that many foreigners are here and have taken away our jobs but reality is that these jobs are not wanted by singaporeans. For examples, cleaners, sale assistants, restaurant helpers, constuction workers, bus drivers, etc. At the same time, I know of some singaporeans who shun these jobs because they think the pay is not high. So, it's about expectation but can we expect every job pays the same?
Look at the causeway every morning. There are at least 20,000 m'sians making daily trip to work here, can't singaporeans fill up these vacancies? No, we all want higher pay job and there again, where to find a country that the pays are the same for all the jobs? We have to keep our expectation in check because there is no way the employers are willing to give high pay for certain jobs.
The real concern is how to get singaporeans to fill up these jobs. Not possible that everyone is tau kay. We have to accept that there will be wage gap and another concern is that the wage gap shouldn't be too wide. Our Geni co-efficient rate tells us that we are not doing too well in this aspect and I hope the govt is working hard on this. -
Chenonceau:
maybe we have only ourselves to blame for not being good enough? :?
My friend is mid-level banker. All her bosses (barring 1 or 2) are foreigners. Those are not low paying jobs. How many of the major banks in Singapore have local CEOs? -
Frankly speaking, I'm feeling very depressed ever since the GE2011. After reading and seeing what we have become now as a society and people are writing about \"accept that the world is flat\" and globalisation... I feel very sad and worried what type of future lays ahead for my only son.
I hope that I'm the only one who is feeling this way and hoping that this is just my \"geng nien qi\" :gloomy:
I have not been working about 7-8years but I can feel the changes and pressures that my family & friends are encountering in their everyday working life.
Eg.1 My friend was really upset that her foreign boss was complaining about paying so much for local employees and how much he can save by employing \"better\" foreigners\" etc.
Eg.2 My sil, a senior executive, was telling me that the future will be very tough for the future generation as most of our kids are study-smart but not street-smart like those \"hungry\" foreigners. She is also worried for her only teenage son.
I just told my dh, maybe we should consider not to put down too much money for our future home, just in case we need to relocate.
I think the most depressing thing is I feel my family has nowhere else to go except to stay here. That's why I feel so helpless.... -
lim72:
My sentiments too..i have nowhere to go but stay here...Frankly speaking, I'm feeling very depressed ever since the GE2011. After reading and seeing what we have become now as a society and people are writing about \"accept that the world is flat\" and globalisation... I feel very sad and worried what type of future lays ahead for my only son.
I hope that I'm the only one who is feeling this way and hoping that this is just my \"geng nien qi\" :gloomy:
I have not been working about 7-8years but I can feel the changes and pressures that my family & friends are encountering in their everyday working life.
Eg.1 My friend was really upset that her foreign boss was complaining about paying so much for local employees and how much he can save by employing \"better\" foreigners\" etc.
Eg.2 My sil, a senior executive, was telling me that the future will be very tough for the future generation as most of our kids are study-smart but not street-smart like those \"hungry\" foreigners. She is also worried for her only teenage son.
I just told my dh, maybe we should consider not to put down too much money for our future home, just in case we need to relocate.
I think the most depressing thing is I feel my family has nowhere else to go except to stay here. That's why I feel so helpless.... -
tankee:
If we have a world class educational system, why aren't we good enough? Our workforce is the product of our educational system no?
maybe we have only ourselves to blame for not being good enough? :?Chenonceau:
My friend is mid-level banker. All her bosses (barring 1 or 2) are foreigners. Those are not low paying jobs. How many of the major banks in Singapore have local CEOs?
It's a bit like me telling my son: \"You're no good. So and so's son is better than you are. I love him more and will give him your inheritance.\" In truth, how my son turned out is a reflection of my own failure in grooming him into a person I CAN love and respect enough to give to him his inheritance. -
Chenonceau:
OUCH!!! :gloomy:
If we have a world class educational system, why aren't we good enough? Our workforce is the product of our educational system no?tankee:
maybe we have only ourselves to blame for not being good enough? :?
... but how true
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