Do you think there is still a future for our kids...
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If we are not good enough is it because of the kind of system we have been put through? 2 generations counting from the 1960s. Chinese saying, if you are put in black ink, you become black, if you are put in white ink, you become white.
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imo, it is not that there is no future here. just that there are bound to be people (regardless of wealth, qualifications etc) who do not mind staying put here and others who want to explore the flat earth.
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let me rephrase, maybe we don’t have enough good enough people?
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Chenonceau:
If we have a world class educational system, why aren't we good enough? Our workforce is the product of our educational system no?
maybe we have only ourselves to blame for not being good enough? :?tankee:
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My friend is mid-level banker. All her bosses (barring 1 or 2) are foreigners. Those are not low paying jobs. How many of the major banks in Singapore have local CEOs?
It's a bit like me telling my son: \"You're no good. So and so's son is better than you are. I love him more and will give him your inheritance.\" In truth, how my son turned out is a reflection of my own failure in grooming him into a person I CAN love and respect enough to give to him his inheritance.[/quote]Excellent! I totally agree. CEOs complain our kids don't take risk and blah, blah, blah....right up to the lates 80s...we already have the \"class\" distinction what EM1, EM2 etc....with such crap, how do we expect our kids to take risk. All they/parents care about was to avoid the \"lowest class\" at all cost. Then next came school ranking system .... why can't all kids be given the same playing field esp. at primary school level?
It is not true that foreigners take up jobs which SGreans do not want to take. Look around you, in fact those lowest level job such as food court dish collector, sweeper, office cleaning ladies...a large majority is done by our seniors. The foreigners came because it was easy access.
Why must scholarships paid by tax-payers' money go to foreigners? Why can't we channel these funds to educate the slower learners, the special kids...give special schools bigger budget, grant scholarships to kids of returning Singaporeans who have excelled overseas...there is so much to do at this homeland, for her own people..yet we see them go to foreign kids. :roll: -
Just to share my personal mission and belief, 'cos I really want to stay positive and encourage my kids knowing how hard it would be for them in their generation:
I want to raise my kids up with the right values and character, that they will grow up to be resilient and to be problem-solvers. So that they will stand tall amongst the foreign talents amongst our midst. So that they will work hard for their future and not be afraid, to believe in themselves, to be thankful for whatever circumstances and what they have - not comparing, not complaining, and to trust God our Provider. To be happy! If they run away from this country their parents and grand parents have built up, they are giving away their inheritance. If they run, they will always be running away because in life, there will always be obstacles, no matter where we are. -
It is like giving away your birthright and inheritance and then compete on that level. Like my father gives away all his assets and then I try to buy back from open market. Yes of course there is a future. In a future without inheritance you have to start from square one.
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ebebel:
:goodpost: agreed totally with your post, except for the \"to trust God our Provider\". No offence. I will tell my son, his destiny is in his hands...Just to share my personal mission and belief, 'cos I really want to stay positive and encourage my kids knowing how hard it would be for them in their generation:
I want to raise my kids up with the right values and character, that they will grow up to be resilient and to be problem-solvers. So that they will stand tall amongst the foreign talents amongst our midst. So that they will work hard for their future and not be afraid, to believe in themselves, to be thankful for whatever circumstances and what they have - not comparing, not complaining, and to trust God our Provider. To be happy! If they run away from this country their parents and grand parents have built up, they are giving away their inheritance. If they run, they will always be running away because in life, there will always be obstacles, no matter where we are. -
HVR:
Personally, I know a foreign capital market law firm that locate in Singapore but with zero singaporean employees. All their 200 employees are from USA, Canada and India with a law or finance degrees and are paid minimally (fresh grads) US$150k a year. How does this benefit Singaporean except that the government can get abit more tax and to create a false image of high economic growth? and then, there are people complaining about indian boss that only take in indian nationals with MBAs that are paid $6000-$10K. All positions can easily be filled by local grads with MBAs from NUS, NTU and SMU.Why no future? Why so pessimistic? Are we having problem creating jobs for our future generations? The impression is that many foreigners are here and have taken away our jobs but reality is that these jobs are not wanted by singaporeans. For examples, cleaners, sale assistants, restaurant helpers, constuction workers, bus drivers, etc. At the same time, I know of some singaporeans who shun these jobs because they think the pay is not high. So, it's about expectation but can we expect every job pays the same?
Look at the causeway every morning. There are at least 20,000 m'sians making daily trip to work here, can't singaporeans fill up these vacancies? No, we all want higher pay job and there again, where to find a country that the pays are the same for all the jobs? We have to keep our expectation in check because there is no way the employers are willing to give high pay for certain jobs.
The real concern is how to get singaporeans to fill up these jobs. Not possible that everyone is tau kay. We have to accept that there will be wage gap and another concern is that the wage gap shouldn't be too wide. Our Geni co-efficient rate tells us that we are not doing too well in this aspect and I hope the govt is working hard on this. -
There is a time to pray and there is a place to post.
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lim72:
Some foreigners are really good but many are really not as good as they claim.
I have not been working about 7-8years but I can feel the changes and pressures that my family & friends are encountering in their everyday working life.
Eg.1 My friend was really upset that her foreign boss was complaining about paying so much for local employees and how much he can save by employing \"better\" foreigners\" etc.
Eg.2 My sil, a senior executive, was telling me that the future will be very tough for the future generation as most of our kids are study-smart but not street-smart like those \"hungry\" foreigners. She is also worried for her only teenage son.
Why is our productivity dropping ever since our government open the floodgate for foreign talents and workers? In the past, our productivity boast one of the highest in the world. Who can say that Singaporeans are less productive?
According to feedback, many of these foreigners are really street smart. they are more vocal and dare to state more than what they know to potential employers and that is why they get the job. Locals are too honest and shy to boast about themselves and it create the superficial appearance that they are less competent.
It has almost created a virulent perception that locals are definitely less hardworking and less capable. But in actual fact, it is completely untrue judging from productivity numbers. By creating diversity for the sake of diversity, the working culture which comprise of workers from a great variety of nationalities, it becomes a headache for management and people didn't realise that productivity actually decrease instead of increasing.
Anyway, do you believe that a degree in NUS is anything less substantial than an obscure university from China, India and Phillipine?
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