MOE Relooking P1 registration - Too much priority to alumni

[IDad]

puff:

The only fair way is to implement it only on child born after the announcement date... Like tat parents will know wat they r getting into before they decide to have kid :evil:

or maybe 9 months after that because maybe some people might not want to have kids after hearing the new policies lol (ok, I'm kidding)

[nlimm]

vicki:

nlimm:

[quote=\"vicki\"]Actually hor,


I think MOE no need to change too much lah - either way they change also will have some unhappy pple one....

So, easy thing is to twig the current 2A to 2C. Maybe after Phase 1, just divide the remaining spaces to 3 sections lor, ie, if 360 original vacancies and Phase one has 60 registrations, Phase 2A/2B n 2C will have 100 each ((360 - 60)/3). If 2A only uses up 60, then roll the remaining 40 to 2C. Then do the same with 2B.

Like that, the current system is kept BUT more spaces opened up for 2C so that schools like Catholic High/ St Nics might have a higher chance of the 2C folks joining them.

HELLO MOE - ARE YOU READING THIS? PLS DONT WASTE MY TAX MONEY ON THINKING TOO MUCH.... just TWIG a little n i think most pple would still be satisfied!!

@Vicki: errmm r u in phase 2C? U seems to tilt towards tt.Me & hb be very unhappy & guessed quite a nos of parents out there who hope our kids to be in our same old sch.

Hello nlimm,

If i use current phases, i will be in Phase 1 in coming registration cos ds1 already in P2 liao. Ds1 got in via 2B. 2C for me was a last resort if i dont get in via 2B.

If i had a daughter (which i dont have at the moment), then prob under 2A since my alma mater (i feel) is quite a good school....

So, actually im talking more from a practical and 'fair' (at least to me!) point of view. Honestly, i dont really see the difference between 2A n 2B <minus the teachers' kids part - for practical reasons of sending the kids to school>. I dont see why the alumni should be 'guaranteed' a space. Hence, i feel, to be fair - keep the current phases and just 'limit' the spaces in 2A just like 2B - if they really want to 'change' something.

Then at least - it frees out some spaces to the 2C (which in some schools - the amt of spaces left is sooooo little - might as well do away with this phase!)

And also, i think they should do away with the 'Full School' secondary parents having affiliation to p1 registration! Sorry - i dont understand why this group of pple is so special....

ie, why St Nics/ CatHigh sec students can be in 2A but schools like SJI cannot.... To me, doesnt make sense.... [/quote]And forgot to comment for ur last point I total agreed. Y are those from affiliated sec sch consider as alumni for the pri sch?this part todate I can't find any reason y is this group of ppls under phase 2A . Most impt toe sentimental attachment, is there any? No. Then this group of ppls will have 2 pri schs to be eligible for phase 2A?(their original pri sch n affiliated pri sch?)

[nlimm]

vicki:

nlimm:

I find Singapore life really very stressful, fr work to taking care of kids to now even sch registration .

It gets worse after they start primary school education!! :yikes: :slapshead: :frustrated:

I can imagine. I am aldy stressed trying to ensure my boy progress is above average

[nlimm]

puff:

The only fair way is to implement it only on child born after the announcement date... Like tat parents will know wat they r getting into before they decide to have kid :evil:

Puff I totally agreed with u!!! & none of the current mummies be unhappy

[janet88]

vicki:

But alot of these schools are also one primary n one secondary....

Eg: CHIJ (TP), CHIJ (Katong) etc....

Dont really understand why some can and some cannot....

Same here...don't understand this 'full school' thing...why is it so different ? Same uniform, same badge what. Difference is CHIJ St Nic is SAP school.

[Oppsgal]

nlimm:

I can imagine. I am aldy stressed trying to ensure my boy progress is above average

Me too... my kid find it boring in childcare as they got repeated syllabus. Have repeated the same thing again and again for few months till now.

Wonder is my kid above \"average\" already since already bored. :rotflmao:

[Baby_May_09]

janet_lee88:

vicki:

But alot of these schools are also one primary n one secondary....

Eg: CHIJ (TP), CHIJ (Katong) etc....

Dont really understand why some can and some cannot....

Same here...don't understand this 'full school' thing...why is it so different ? Same uniform, same badge what. Difference is CHIJ St Nic is SAP school.

For full school like St Nic, the primary school and the secondary school is one school ie. They share the school compound and have the same principal, school motto etc.

The benefits are 2 ways. The secondary school students enjoys phase 2A (cause the secondary school and primary school is the same) and the primary school students get to go to the secondary school with a lower COP. Moreover there will be a few express classes for St Nics primary students (20 years ago they have express, not so sure whether now still have) even though the secondary school is a SAP school.

[vicki]

nlimm:

Vicki: y phase2A should stay ? Coz old boys old girls are those who make the school to be consider as ' Top school'. Aren't these old boys old girls those whom had earned the schools the awards/titles? On top of coz the sense of belonging. Todate all top sch majority seats r taken during phase 1. Instead of applying changes to phase 2A , they should look into those under phase 1 & limit the seats given to this phase too. Based on Nyps 2011,50% taken by phase 1 & 30% taken by phase2 only.
If again ur reason of not touching phase1 is coz of convenience like what Idad mentioned, y not move ur 1st kid to the sch nearest to ur home n put ur 2nd kid there then tta really convenience & practical right? ( sorry if I sound direct here , no personal attack k:))
And again all of us want our kids to be in a good sch & of coz with the sentimental attachment tts the best.
Instead of looking into phase 2A, don't u all think tt phase 2B is more redundant?eg Grassroot ? Wats the contribution to the sch? And for PV, how many of these parents still contribute to the sch?

My friendly rebuttals are as follows:
1) I never said 2a to go. I said limit it. Why should there be royalty aka bloodline treatment given specially n thoroughly to this group of pple. Yes. They have benefitted from the school but other than for pride n sentimental reasons - why should they be guaranteed a space.

True, some students contributed to the good results (Be it academic or via sports). But NOT all contributions are equal n also NOT all contributed rite? So, going by the logic u mentioned, then the school should pick up those old boys n old gals who really deserve a place n weed out those that don't. But should we do this? No. Cos then it will become very elitist.

2) I feel 2a n 2b church/clan n 2b pv should be treated in the same manner. Cos if we were to talk abt past contributions... then without the church n clan.. maybe the school might not have started off or flourished well...

2b gv - debatable - so no comments on this.

3) Phase 1 is not solely abt convenience. It's abt practicality!! Different set of schools might mean different textbooks/ logistics/ school uniform prob..

Are u sure that limiting phase 1 is a good idea? I bet other than those parents with one kid or those in 2c, every other parent will 'throw eggs' at the govt if that happen cos I cannot thk of a sensible n logical reason for this.

Frankly, if they limit, n I don't get in, I won't 'cry' over it cos it just means spending more money only (together abv stuff n school bus fees) - but for those who don't hve this luxury - it will be a stretch.

N i feel that should they decide to limit phase1, then they might as well do away with all the phases n just call it the Great Singapore Primary 1 Registration - n do it via ballot then it's truly a fair process!

:hugs:

[vicki]

Baby_May_09:

janet_lee88:

[quote=\"vicki\"]But alot of these schools are also one primary n one secondary....

Eg: CHIJ (TP), CHIJ (Katong) etc....

Dont really understand why some can and some cannot....

Same here...don't understand this 'full school' thing...why is it so different ? Same uniform, same badge what. Difference is CHIJ St Nic is SAP school.

For full school like St Nic, the primary school and the secondary school is one school ie. They share the school compound and have the same principal, school motto etc.

The benefits are 2 ways. The secondary school students enjoys phase 2A (cause the secondary school and primary school is the same) and the primary school students get to go to the secondary school with a lower COP. Moreover there will be a few express classes for St Nics primary students (20 years ago they have express, not so sure whether now still have) even though the secondary school is a SAP school.[/quote]If u compare IJ TP n St Nics... The difference is just hvg a different school prinicipal. Everythg else is the same. So why St Nics is a full school n IJ TP is not???

[nlimm]

Oppsgal:

nlimm:

I can imagine. I am aldy stressed trying to ensure my boy progress is above average

Me too... my kid find it boring in childcare as they got repeated syllabus. Have repeated the same thing again and again for few months till now.

Wonder is my kid above \"average\" already since already bored. :rotflmao:

I think so but it's inevitable if u put him in cc coz they have to cater to every kids. It's what happening to my boy now.As he yr-end baby I worried that he can't catch up with jan babies so I work parttime & taught him myself.When he's 17th mth(2009) hes attending classes with 24-36mths (2008)kids. Started this yr I put him into cc & the curriculum are what he had aldy learned & he started to get bored & always got complained from teachers that he ' strays' to N2-K2 classes. I am thinking if to withdraw him but most of the cc I checked out syllabus r similar. Quite a nos of my Frds' kids having same problem , maybe Mcys shd also look into cc's curriculum & improve fr there since nowsaday kids tend to be smarter too( abit off track here)