Dunman High School (Junior High)

[verykiasu2010]

Augmum:

mum_sugoku:

BTW I was pretty amused that not long after media throwing so much limelight on this year's PSLE top scorer, the tuition centre which she attended used her as their poster girl in their (half-page) advertisement in the Straits Time! Hopefully the tuition centre was not trying to imply that credit should go to the centre--instead of her school--for her achievement :evil:, haha.

i heard that some of those reputable tuition centres do have agreement beforehand with the pupils
when they registered with the centres, that the centres are allowed to publish and use the pupils' names
shd they achieve excellent results.
How true isit ?? Any1 ?

is true

[kevin1]

Zhuge:

A comparison of A Level results: RI,HCI,VJC,NJC,TJC,DHS,RVHS

Following information obtained from above schools' websites.
The percentage scoring at least 3 distinctions in H2 subjects.
Please correct if there are mistakes.

1. RI - 68%
Half of the cohort scored a distinction in all 4 H2 subjects, the highest since the first cohort who offered the revised A-Level curriculum in 2007. 622 students (50%) scored 4 distinctions in the content-based subjects, and 853 students (68%) scored 3 distinctions in the content-based subjects.

2. HCI - more than 50%
Over half the cohort of 1200 has scored at least 3 H2 Distinctions

3. VJC - 50%
1 in 2 Victorians scored at least 3 distinctions in H2 content-based subjects and record-breaking 28% Victorians scored 4 distinctions in H2 content-based subjects.

4. NJC - 44%
Overall, 44% of students scored 3 or 4 H2 Distinctions

5. TJC - not available

6. DHS - 40%
40% of the cohort achieved at least 3 H2 Distinctions.

7. RVHS - not available

Zhuge,

If you compare the results by the no. of distinctions, then DHS would have done much better than NJC. Let's use no. of students with 6 distinctions or above:

DHS: 141 students or 25% of cohort size
source:http://www.zaobao.com.sg/sp/sp120303_009_1.shtml

NJC: 99 students (cohort size unknown but definitely at least twice that of DHS. Let's assume it's 700) or 14.1% (estimated)

In terms of 7 distinctions DHS also has more students compared to both NJC and RV
NJC

DHS: 39
NJC: 32
RV: 28 (of comparable cohort size with DHS)

[WeiHan]

Let me provide some points which may be useful in the analysis.


Most students in top schools take 4 H2, Higher Mother Tongue, GP or KI and Project Work. That makes up 7 subjects. For students who take an additional H3, he/she will then have 8 subjects. To have 9 subjects, he/she will need either 2 H3 or a Third language in H1 level (and that require special application to MOE).

It may appear that some schools do better in the H2 subjects and they have higher percentage of students with 3 or 4 H2 distinctions but the number or percentage of students with 7 or more distinctions is lesser than another school which has a lower percentage of students with 3 or more H2 distinctions.

The reason is simply the latter school has done better in HMT or PW than the first schools mentioned. From here, we can understand the reason why NJC and VJC have a better result in H2 subjects but the percentage of students with 7 or more distinctions are less.

However, when calculating university entrance point, H2 subjects will carry a heavier weightage. The schools that do better in H2 subjects will end up with higher average university entrance scores.

[Zhuge]

kevin1:

Zhuge:

A comparison of A Level results: RI,HCI,VJC,NJC,TJC,DHS,RVHS

Following information obtained from above schools' websites.
The percentage scoring at least 3 distinctions in H2 subjects.
Please correct if there are mistakes.

1. RI - 68%
Half of the cohort scored a distinction in all 4 H2 subjects, the highest since the first cohort who offered the revised A-Level curriculum in 2007. 622 students (50%) scored 4 distinctions in the content-based subjects, and 853 students (68%) scored 3 distinctions in the content-based subjects.

2. HCI - more than 50%
Over half the cohort of 1200 has scored at least 3 H2 Distinctions

3. VJC - 50%
1 in 2 Victorians scored at least 3 distinctions in H2 content-based subjects and record-breaking 28% Victorians scored 4 distinctions in H2 content-based subjects.

4. NJC - 44%
Overall, 44% of students scored 3 or 4 H2 Distinctions

5. TJC - not available

6. DHS - 40%
40% of the cohort achieved at least 3 H2 Distinctions.

7. RVHS - not available

Zhuge,

If you compare the results by the no. of distinctions, then DHS would have done much better than NJC. Let's use no. of students with 6 distinctions or above:

DHS: 141 students or 25% of cohort size
source:http://www.zaobao.com.sg/sp/sp120303_009_1.shtml

NJC: 99 students (cohort size unknown but definitely at least twice that of DHS. Let's assume it's 700) or 14.1% (estimated)

In terms of 7 distinctions DHS also has more students compared to both NJC and RV
NJC

DHS: 39
NJC: 32
RV: 28 (of comparable cohort size with DHS)

yes, that's what i did. the percentage of 3 H2 distinctions and above, which i think is a better reflection of the overall standard...

[Zhuge]

if someone have all the info, we can have a table:

8 distinctions, 7, 6, 5, 4 and 3 on the horizontal axis
the schools on the vertical axis
think this will give a clearer overall picture

[kevin1]

WeiHan:

Let me provide some points which may be useful in the analysis.


Most students in top schools take 4 H2, Higher Mother Tongue, GP or KI and Project Work. That makes up 7 subjects. For students who take an additional H3, he/she will then have 8 subjects. To have 9 subjects, he/she will need either 2 H3 or a Third language in H1 level (and that require special application to MOE).

It may appear that some schools do better in the H2 subjects and they have higher percentage of students with 3 or 4 H2 distinctions but the number or percentage of students with 7 or more distinctions is lesser than another school which has a lower percentage of students with 3 or more H2 distinctions.

The reason is simply the latter school has done better in HMT or PW than the first schools mentioned. From here, we can understand the reason why NJC and VJC have a better result in H2 subjects but the percentage of students with 7 or more distinctions are less.

However, when calculating university entrance point, H2 subjects will carry a heavier weightage. The schools that do better in H2 subjects will end up with higher average university entrance scores.

Hi Weihan,

Thanks for the clarification. The 93% distinction PW would have helped. However, the difference between NJC and DHS for H2 distinction is 4% but for no. of 6 distinctions it's 11% with DHS having more. What we can infer from this is that assuming students from both schools have 3 H2 distinctions, students from DHS did better in their H1 subjects and therefore have more distinctions. So on the whole, DHS has produced more students of excellent results (6,7,8 distinctions) compared to NJC and VJC but cohort wise still trails slightly behind the the latter two JCs.

I think it's easy to dismiss H1 as less significant than H2 but for university admission points 2 H1 subjects is equivalent to 1 H2 subject and you would still need 3 H1 subjects for the computations of University admission points.

[Zhuge]

it will be good if the table show all the way to 3 distinctions for H2 subjects:


http://www.neutuition.com/2011-level-results-distinctions/

[Vanilla Cake]

kevin1:

DHS: 141 students or 25% of cohort size

source:http://www.zaobao.com.sg/sp/sp120303_009_1.shtml

Hi kevin1,
Could you pls advise how the figure of 141 students or 25% of cohort size is derived?

From http://www.zaobao.com.sg/sp/sp120303_009_1.shtml: 德明政府中学则有25％的学生取得至少六科特优的成绩。
and
DHS's http://www.dhs.sg/mar-02-a-level-results.html: 93 Dunmanians achieved at least 6 Distinctions.

Should the cohort size of DHS's cohort (2011 Year 6 cohort): 93x4 = 372 students?

VC's mum

[kevin1]

Hello VC sorry it’s my mistake. It should be 93 students. I thought the numbers for 6,7,8 distinctions were not cumulative so I added them up. But the percentage should be correct according to zaobao.

[kevin1]

One more piece of info: DHS 4H2 distinction : 38% (source: https://mobile.twitter.com/maverickpikachu/status/175469102062764032 a tweet from a DHS student) Can anyone from DHS verify this?


If this is true then this will explain the high nos. of 6,7,8 distinctions.