MOE Relooking P1 registration - Too much priority to alumni

[Lyddon]

buds:

Distance is a BIG DEAL to me because it'll mean I have to lug two children n a baby during confinement (back then).. rain or shine.. via public transport, if I cannot get into a neighborhood school just behind my residence or if transport arrangements doesn't work out for a school slightly further away. Worse if need to chg two buses.. and that said haven't factor in if two children are in different sessions and have CCA commitment before/after school.. :faint:

Excellent point.
Extra priority to the child that has more siblings.
That would certainly increase our birth rate!

[laughingcat]

dorisp:

Well, it is not about 2A1 vs 2A2 or 2A (as a whole) vs 2B or 2C.


IMHO, we could keep the alumni connection (2A1+2A2), we can also keep PV, clan and GRL (2B) as it is a system run by willing parties knowing the odds.

The issue seemed to be those 2A (as a whole) staying >2km or far away.

The numbers of registration in 2A are more and more alarming, so it may mean there are more and more of those 2A >2km. Each 2A >2km taken will be at the expense of one 2C <1km.

Hence the issue is \"is there too much priority given to alumni\" so much so that it is unconditional leading to inefficiency and totally make the original notion whereby priority by distance a mockery.

You still do not get the point. If almuni should stay, then why fault those who stayed more than 2km? Why fault those who contributed to the school?

If one is concern about the phase 2C vacancy, then take away the controversial PV, GRL and clan. Then you have it all the vacancy you ask for.

Take a look at SCGS and ACS......do you see HDB within 2km????? The answer is NO. Are we creating social divides here by looking at distance only?

[laughingcat]

Lyddon:

buds:

Distance is a BIG DEAL to me because it'll mean I have to lug two children n a baby during confinement (back then).. rain or shine.. via public transport, if I cannot get into a neighborhood school just behind my residence or if transport arrangements doesn't work out for a school slightly further away. Worse if need to chg two buses.. and that said haven't factor in if two children are in different sessions and have CCA commitment before/after school.. :faint:

Excellent point.
Extra priority to the child that has more siblings.
That would certainly increase our birth rate!

That is why give priority to those family members who have 3 children and more. That is inline with SGp procreation policy. :evil:

[concern2]

Hey, people, has it occurred to you that if distance become priority, and that being the key determining factor to school selection, then there will be LESS TRAFFIC on the roads - less school buses, no need to drive children to school (walk/cycle can do), less traffic cramped outside school compounds (less hazards to children), we save, govt also save, no need to buy so many buses, no need to squeeze in crowded buses and MRTs to get to school? I mean - like the roads are so much quieter during school holidays!!! Doesn't it mean something to you?

[JGMum]

dorisp:

Well, it is not about 2A1 vs 2A2 or 2A (as a whole) vs 2B or 2C.


IMHO, we could keep the alumni connection (2A1+2A2), we can also keep PV, clan and GRL (2B) as it is a system run by willing parties knowing the odds.

The issue seemed to be those 2A (as a whole) staying >2km or far away.

The numbers of registration in 2A are more and more alarming, so it may mean there are more and more of those 2A >2km. Each 2A >2km taken will be at the expense of one 2C <1km.

Hence the issue is \"is there too much priority given to alumni\" so much so that it is unconditional leading to inefficiency and totally make the original notion whereby priority by distance a mockery.

Err... please correct me if I am wrong. :scratchhead: (Don't flame me, okay).
I have always thought that the original notion (as you call it) is not priority by distance, it is alumni more important than distance. Perhaps the question you are asking is should the original intent - where alumni is more important than other 2B connections, and 2B connections more important than distance - be changed?
:siam:

[laughingcat]

concern2:

Hey, people, has it occurred to you that if distance become priority, and that being the key determining factor to school selection, then there will be LESS TRAFFIC on the roads - less school buses, no need to drive children to school (walk/cycle can do), less traffic cramped outside school compounds (less hazards to children), we save, govt also save, no need to buy so many buses, no need to squeeze in crowded buses and MRTs to get to school? I mean - like the roads are so much quieter during school holidays!!! Doesn't it mean something to you?

Then as what I have quote earlier.....schools like SCGS and ACS, they don't have HDB flats within 2km.

So do you want to see social divides (Rich and Poor) in such schools?

[dorisp]

JGMum:

Err... please correct me if I am wrong. :scratchhead: (Don't flame me, okay).

I have always thought that the original notion (as you call it) is not priority by distance, it is alumni more important than distance. Perhaps the question you are asking is should the original intent - where alumni is more important than other 2B connections, and 2B connections more important than distance - be changed?
:siam:

No worries, its friendly discussion as far as I am concern.

With or without one 1998 MOE speech, I believe all of us know the original notion of the policy is for prority to alumni over \"others\" but somehow the policy also recognises home proximity as an important factor to the child and the family.

In recent years, the bigger and bigger 2A take up rate plus more mis-matches of home school arrangements due to the umbrella priority given to 2A (regardless of distance) trigerred the need for policy holders to relook into this system.

When there are concerns or issues over existing policies, the policy makers ought to re-evaluate if they should still insist priority of alumni (especially those staying far) over all others to such extend that it totally disregard distance priority and done at the expense of another family's travel time.

All policies need to cater for newer developments, recent changes and better efficiency.

[Nebbermind]

er....so what's the score now?? :?

[dorisp]

Instead of a balance of \"Connection\" vs \"Distance\", it is now \"Connection all the way\" over \"Distance not as important now\".


If all are happy with the later development, then there is no need to relook into any system on which group might be given too much priority.

[IDad]

laughingcat:

concern2:

Hey, people, has it occurred to you that if distance become priority, and that being the key determining factor to school selection, then there will be LESS TRAFFIC on the roads - less school buses, no need to drive children to school (walk/cycle can do), less traffic cramped outside school compounds (less hazards to children), we save, govt also save, no need to buy so many buses, no need to squeeze in crowded buses and MRTs to get to school? I mean - like the roads are so much quieter during school holidays!!! Doesn't it mean something to you?

Then as what I have quote earlier.....schools like SCGS and ACS, they don't have HDB flats within 2km.

So do you want to see social divides (Rich and Poor) in such schools?

I'm sorry to burst your bubble dear, there are HDB flats with 2km of SCGS, ACSP and ACSJ. They are at Cambridge, Owen Road, Ah Hood areas. For ACSJ, within 1km also have, Blk 661, 662 Tekka Market. So your argument doesn't hold.