Maid to get weekly rest days

[BeContented]

LOLMum:

JonC:

How about those FTHM here, need a weekly day off too, right?

FTHM = full time ???? mums :?

full time home maker??

[Funz]

First thought was full time horny mothers.


But yah I think it is full time homemakers.

[jtoh]

Funz:

First thought was full time horny mothers.


But yah I think it is full time homemakers.

:rotflmao:

[auntieM]

jtoh:

Funz:

First thought was full time horny mothers.


But yah I think it is full time homemakers.

:rotflmao:

:rotflmao: Full Time Hot Mama de.. ...

[LOLMum]

cheez, for a moment, homemaker just did registered in my head.


must kick mr tan chuan jin out of my head. :slapshead:

[verykiasu2010]

LOLMum:

cheez, for a moment, homemaker just did registered in my head.


must kick mr tan chuan jin out of my head. :slapshead:

what scandal ??!! :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :evil: :evil: :siam:

[HAPPYH]

Power Puff:

Most people would choose not to have any live-in maid if they could help it. Before we judge anyone, we have to consider their family needs first...I'd hust given birth, and had a preschooler and elderly parent living with me. I too did household chores, chaufferring, buying groceries, cooking while taking care of my kids for 4 months after my maid was repatriated -she stole from us. It was tough but I didn't, couldn't collapse, otherwise, who else would hold the fort right? I did the bare minimum of chores, but found myself exhausted, especially since both kids also demanded my attention. Relations between my family members got strained. So no choice, despite our bad experiences with maids, we decided to hire another one. When my kids grow older and more independent, I will most likely look for a local part-time helper. When I return to the workforce after my leave, I may also have to hunt for a childcare centre. The govt's policies appear to favour maids because they want us working mothers to wean off maids and depend more on our own extended family members to help in childminding...so the point is, treat your parents and parents-in-laws well!!


Different countries have different policies and different dynamics. We should never compare ourselves with other countries unless the work culture, education, health, housing, population and immigration, transport policies, everything else are the same,. This is true even when comparing ourselves to countries closer to home. It appears that our policy makers have a habit of quoting what seems in line with international humane standards but conveniently neglect other imporrtant implications to justify their decisions.

I still think the crux of the issue is not the weekly off day per se, but the amount of accountability which is largely borne by employers currently. There should be clear guidelines on what 'off day' means, how many hours..If like HK, then it's from the night before til the next working day morning, the govt should expect the maids to pay for their own food and lodging. Whether the maids gallavant or bunk in with their bf, we shouldn't bother. Just don't expect us to be responsible for any medical fees or forfeit our bons if anything happens outside our home. The current policies are ambiguous and allows for too many loopholes. The maids are laughing at us!

:goodpost:

[HAPPYH]

JGMum:

1amber:

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I have a colleague in the UK who is my counterpart for Europe who has 2 children (8 & 2), does the same full-time job as me which includes almost monthly overseas travel and she has no choice but to survive with just a part-time cleaner. She or her husband have to cook when they get home every night and the children are 100% her responsibility whenever she isn't at work. We are very lucky!

Now you know why they do not want to get married and have kids? I lived there. I know what families are going through. During school holidays, my friends frown and summon up their grans to help if they are healthy enough.

The good thing I noticed about UK is that kids generally sleep early. They can because no homework. Their curriculum is not so punishing. Can we do it here? By 7.30pm families expect kids to go upstairs to sleep so that adults have their own time. When I was living there my British friends thought I was cruel to let my kid sleep past 9pm. Wait till they here about night tuition and enrichments and doing homework past 9pm...

So we really just compare like that. Our society is different. Expectations are different.

Exactly. Different countries have different demands on parents and employees. On education especially, we expect our parents here to be more involved (in coaching) than parents in Europe. An European country where I worked and lived in for a couple of years has an education system where there is no homework for children until they are older than 12. Parents are not expected to coach or teach their kids after school hours. All the teaching is done in school. Hence hours after school is only play time. Here, I am struggling to coach my P1 boy with his school homework, and he is lucky if he gets to sleep by 9 pm. I can't imagine when he reaches higher primary, when we have to factor in tuition homework.

Think back on our parents' generation, many do not have maids. Perhaps they could cope better without maids because they do not have to teach their children after school hours? (most do not know how to anyway)

Within my industry at least, this country also has shorter working hours. And mothers with young children are usually given less workload because they knock off at 4pm to pick up their children from childcare centres. Other colleagues there knock off 5pm ON THE DOT. No OT. No working from home after work 9pm to 12am on your laptop. Productivity-wise, of course it is lower. The headcount for any section there (in the same company) is higher than that in Singapore for the same output. I call the years I worked there my career honeymoon, the only time I could really work 9 am to 5 pm, Mon to Fri, and no more.[/quote]Can you imagine that kind of life style here? NO WAY. Although my working hours are 8.30 to 6, I can feel my boss is not happy if I make a move on the dot (6 pm). When I reach home, my DD will be ready with her school or enrichment homework. One may argue that I CHOOSE to have enrichments, yes I did. But why did I do that? To spend money? To kill my child's playtime? Definitely the answer is NO NO NO. Then why? Our system.

So comparing with other countries is not a fair argument. Of course, for argument sake, I can also say many things, but I want to think this first, \"Is it practical?\"

I am completely alright with FDWs taking Sundays off. I am ok with Saturdays as well. Buuuuutttttttt, I dont WANT to be responsible for anything that happens to FDWs on their off-days. Is it too much to ask this? :mad:

[HAPPYH]

jtoh:

If our maids work at someone else's home on their Sundays off, this is against MOM's rules right? If that's the case, will the employers get into trouble even though we are not aware of it?

How MOM can track this? I doubt some FDWs are already doing this.

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HAPPYH:

Power Puff:

Most people would choose not to have any live-in maid if they could help it. Before we judge anyone, we have to consider their family needs first...I'd hust given birth, and had a preschooler and elderly parent living with me. I too did household chores, chaufferring, buying groceries, cooking while taking care of my kids for 4 months after my maid was repatriated -she stole from us. It was tough but I didn't, couldn't collapse, otherwise, who else would hold the fort right? I did the bare minimum of chores, but found myself exhausted, especially since both kids also demanded my attention. Relations between my family members got strained. So no choice, despite our bad experiences with maids, we decided to hire another one. When my kids grow older and more independent, I will most likely look for a local part-time helper. When I return to the workforce after my leave, I may also have to hunt for a childcare centre. The govt's policies appear to favour maids because they want us working mothers to wean off maids and depend more on our own extended family members to help in childminding...so the point is, treat your parents and parents-in-laws well!!


Different countries have different policies and different dynamics. We should never compare ourselves with other countries unless the work culture, education, health, housing, population and immigration, transport policies, everything else are the same,. This is true even when comparing ourselves to countries closer to home. It appears that our policy makers have a habit of quoting what seems in line with international humane standards but conveniently neglect other imporrtant implications to justify their decisions.

I still think the crux of the issue is not the weekly off day per se, but the amount of accountability which is largely borne by employers currently. There should be clear guidelines on what 'off day' means, how many hours..If like HK, then it's from the night before til the next working day morning, the govt should expect the maids to pay for their own food and lodging. Whether the maids gallavant or bunk in with their bf, we shouldn't bother. Just don't expect us to be responsible for any medical fees or forfeit our bons if anything happens outside our home. The current policies are ambiguous and allows for too many loopholes. The maids are laughing at us!

:goodpost:

The new ruling does not take into account the cost when the maid gets into trouble and needs to be repatriated. Who bears the cost of repatriation, the agent fees for new maid, the new insurance to apply for, the annual leave needed during the gap when waiting for new maid...........